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Hush, if you're gonna come in here and think this is pointless. Laughing Laughing

This is merely for the drummer looking to improve overall speed and whatnot, or the up and coming metal drummer looking to kick his blasts and double bass into high gear.







( if you want to watch the rest of the Derek Roddy lessons and solos videos, look to your right when you open the videos in youtube )









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Some ideas for you death metal drummers out there. Also, showing a bit of creativity in the metal genre.


















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nice posts brother. definitely worth a watch if you havnt seen this before. great drummers. DEREEEEK!1








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I'd like to add to this that all metal drummer should be practicing alot of single stroke for long periods of time. set a metronome and just play steady single for 5 minutes at a time. you dont have to do it too fast, just as fast as is comfortable, then do the same with your feet. this excersize is as much about keeping control over long periods of time then it is about endurence








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I highly recommend acquiring a practice kit too

I made this for less then $75, and all the pads are triggered so I can use them with my DM5 and Drumometer:









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I highly recommend acquiring a practice kit too

I made this for less then $75, and all the pads are triggered so I can use them with my DM5 and Drumometer:



if you drum set is not at your house, or you have noise problems you shouldm definatley have a practice kit or at least a pad. I have a set at home and a set at the studio








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Some handy tools:

Hansen Futz
http://www.practicepedals.com/

Drumometer
http://drumometer.com/







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Some handy tools:

Hansen Futz
http://www.practicepedals.com/

Drumometer
http://drumometer.com/


I use both of those(gee,who would have thought?). theyre great products








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Those pedals look pretty cool!








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Great D/M drumming there. I love Death Metal....








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I got one recommendation: stick control by george lawrence stone. practice with your feet. or practice the rhythms with your hands over a steady 16th feel with your feet. or break up between hands and feet as you see fit. priceless.







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i'll have some vids for this thread soon








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i'll have some vids for this thread soon


I'm holding you to it. You've been promising for a while now. Wink








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I havent taken a video in a while. I just ordered a firewire cable for my camera so i should be able to record something and put it on my pc soon. Dont expect me to be the sickest metal drummer ever or anything








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I havent taken a video in a while. I just ordered a firewire cable for my camera so i should be able to record something and put it on my pc soon. Dont expect me to be the sickest metal drummer ever or anything


I already know you're better than me so no matter what, it'll be a learning experience.








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Ya, I've been eyeing those Futz for a while.

They're really that good huh?








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xdoseonex wrote:
I havent taken a video in a while. I just ordered a firewire cable for my camera so i should be able to record something and put it on my pc soon. Dont expect me to be the sickest metal drummer ever or anything


I already know you're better than me so no matter what, it'll be a learning experience.


i think anyone can learn from anyone








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Some handy tools:

Hansen Futz
http://www.practicepedals.com/

Drumometer
http://drumometer.com/


I never trust stuff like that, it always sounded really shady to me. Like the name itself, "Hansen Futz", hands and foots practice pad? But guess if you can vouch for it... because I definitely need something to work my feet as I can't play my set at my house because its too loud.







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Yeah wooh Derek!







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that jared falk guy seems 2 get around like some mad entrepeneur when it comes 2 drumming solutions Laughing hansen futz seems like a good idea tho








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Great Post. Roddy is amazing.

That workout is in the Joe Morello Master studies Book. He calls 'The Stone Killer' as taught to him by George Lawrence Stone. The excersise gets deeper as you add Accents and double up. Plus you go into triple feel aswell. Check it out. The Book is really good in general and makes a great addition to classic Stick Control book by G L Stone which you MUST get if you want to step up your playing.








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Hello all, I'm new to this site. I love that Roddy video. I used to do practice the half hour routine and it worked. I got to get back into that. I heard that Pete Sandoval from Morbid angel was coming out with a drum video. Unfortunately I heard this news like 3 or 4 years ago and I don't think its going to happen.







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Guy is just friggin inhuman! Twisted Evil
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http://youtube.com/user/alexgrind

^^ This is the drummer from the most amazing Deathcore band ever, Despised Icon.


He's an intensely solid drummer. He even has a video of him playing a song by the band Nile.

Nile is known for the fastest music out there with a real drummer being, George Kollias.

Take note of his backwards stick technique and the power he plays with.

I believe someone even said they were marching sticks!








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http://youtube.com/user/alexgrind

^^ This is the drummer from the most amazing Deathcore band ever, Despised Icon.


He's an intensely solid drummer. He even has a video of him playing a song by the band Nile.

Nile is known for the fastest music out there with a real drummer being, George Kollias.

Take note of his backwards stick technique and the power he plays with.

I believe someone even said they were marching sticks!



I love George Kollias, but my favorite drummer that played with Nile is Tony Laurano. That guy is a beast!!!!







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A metal drummer that has had me in awe since the release of Between the Buried and Me's new album "Colors" has been Blake Richardson. I think I've listened to that album at least once a day since November. It's such an amazing album and I love the creativity and flexibility that not only Richardson exhibits but the entire band. I recommend it if you haven't already checked it out.








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While I'm "old school" drummer and can't get into all that speed stuff, that first clip is VERY Impressive-though if I tried that, at my age I'm sure I'd have a heart attack!lol HOw the F*%k does someone get here limbs to move that fast!








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A metal drummer that has had me in awe since the release of Between the Buried and Me's new album "Colors" has been Blake Richardson. I think I've listened to that album at least once a day since November. It's such an amazing album and I love the creativity and flexibility that not only Richardson exhibits but the entire band. I recommend it if you haven't already checked it out.


Hear hear, I think Colors is worthy of album of the year. It blends so well; the song transitions are perfect. And the drumming is spectacular. I love the opening to Sun of Nothing.







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Heres a good exercize for the hands. its from scott johnson i think.

Straight 8s in 6/8, but use this sticking: R L R L R L / R L L R R L / L R L R L R / L R R L L R (repeat)
speeds around 120-140 (for a dotted quarter) will force you to control the doubles, as opposed to just throwing them into the drum and hoping that they bounce in time.








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That guy is really fast! He's a really good metal drummer.








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Straight 8s in 6/8, but use this sticking: R L R L R L / R L L R R L / L R L R L R / L R R L L R (repeat)
speeds around 120-140 (for a dotted quarter) will force you to control the doubles, as opposed to just throwing them into the drum and hoping that they bounce in time.



Yeah... they're 6 stroke rolls R L L R R L








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Another excellent (but not metal in any way) drummer is Jojo Mayer. I strongly recommend his new DVD "Secret Weapons for the Modern Drummer." He's funny, well spoken, and knows what he's talking about.













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WOW! Can ya play any faster. People tell me I'm fast. But I feel like I'm in SLOW MO!!!!
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I just posted this in the forum member videos, but I'll delete that one and reprint here since it seems here is more appropriate.

It seems like my stuff always comes out in pairs with a personal project on one end and a WFD thing on the other. Today I was playing vibes with a piano player I really liked and we decided to record some things tomorrow and maybe post immediately. In the meantime this just came out.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=6VBUfxbo82s

It's a PBS show called Alt. News 26:46 with me, Johnny Rabb and WFD founder Boo McAfee. It's run by college age people and its won several Emmys. I was at Boo's farm outside of Nashville, a couple of months ago as part of a launch for the new WFD video game. They filmed Johnny's segment at a Nashville gig the night before. I was impressed at how nice the segment turned out, and I even got to rant a little.







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Nice videos. This guy knows how to break it down. What is that crap he's playin. Everything starts on one and ends on 4. Speed is the his friend. If you are fast you are good..... NOT. Ask your girl friend if fast is good. I'll admit I can not play double BD at those speeds for very long. So what. Who buys it.







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Nice videos. This guy knows how to break it down. What is that crap he's playin. Everything starts on one and ends on 4. Speed is the his friend. If you are fast you are good..... NOT. Ask your girl friend if fast is good. I'll admit I can not play double BD at those speeds for very long. So what. Who buys it.


I don't see any one lining up to see your sorry ass







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Nice videos. This guy knows how to break it down. What is that crap he's playin. Everything starts on one and ends on 4. Speed is the his friend. If you are fast you are good..... NOT. Ask your girl friend if fast is good. I'll admit I can not play double BD at those speeds for very long. So what. Who buys it.


Matts a sick drummer and a hell of a nice kid. Your a schmuck. I'll take a sick drummer over a schmuck any day








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I just posted this in the forum member videos, but I'll delete that one and reprint here since it seems here is more appropriate.

It seems like my stuff always comes out in pairs with a personal project on one end and a WFD thing on the other. Today I was playing vibes with a piano player I really liked and we decided to record some things tomorrow and maybe post immediately. In the meantime this just came out.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=6VBUfxbo82s

It's a PBS show called Alt. News 26:46 with me, Johnny Rabb and WFD founder Boo McAfee. It's run by college age people and its won several Emmys. I was at Boo's farm outside of Nashville, a couple of months ago as part of a launch for the new WFD video game. They filmed Johnny's segment at a Nashville gig the night before. I was impressed at how nice the segment turned out, and I even got to rant a little.

Matt, first off, I did not realize you were that Matt, I feel pretty stupid now...............................But brain damage does have it redeeming qualities!
That's sick shit man! Are you coming to the convention? If so, please contact me directly as I would like to talk to you.








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Nice videos. This guy knows how to break it down. What is that crap he's playin. Everything starts on one and ends on 4. Speed is the his friend. If you are fast you are good..... NOT. Ask your girl friend if fast is good. I'll admit I can not play double BD at those speeds for very long. So what. Who buys it.


Must have missed the first post in this thread, huh? Speed and chops can't be a bad thing to have in one's arsenal and that's what this is about, not polyrhythms, paradiddles and odd time meters. I guess I'll wait for your instructional videos and see what it's all about.








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Nice videos. This guy knows how to break it down. What is that crap he's playin. Everything starts on one and ends on 4. Speed is the his friend. If you are fast you are good..... NOT. Ask your girl friend if fast is good. I'll admit I can not play double BD at those speeds for very long. So what. Who buys it.


Dude you're just another never was johnnyringo wannabe writing checks you can't cash. I especially enjoy how you litter your posts with groove catchphrases in such an awkward way as to know that you're but another clueless fraud of the percussive arts. Let's hope your restaraunt operates smoother than the brain stem that suggested your picking an unsolicited fight on a drum forum was an appropriate way for a so called adult to pass his time.

Trademark Kid you're arrogant rant used by immature adults who get their feelings hurt after they instigated the BS in 5-4-3-2...







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Okjohne is a poser for real. Dude has to throw his 2 cents in on everything.

I guarantee almost all of us metal-heads in this thread could probably keep up or school him in the very genre he's so accustomed to playing.


Whatever, just another mindless jerk. Pay no attention to him friends..








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Okjohne is a poser for real. Dude has to throw his 2 cents in on everything.

I guarantee almost all of us metal-heads in this thread could probably keep up or school him in the very genre he's so accustomed to playing.


Whatever, just another mindless jerk. Pay no attention to him friends..


yeah, dude like to show up to the conversation and make fun of stuff. I guess thats just what he likes to do.








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And guess what, you're all rising to his bait and aren't you all responding in the same way! Laughing

Guy is surely entitled to his opinion.

Let it be. Cool







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Scottish man actually. Smile

Thats like me calling you Canadian! Twisted Evil







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Scottish man actually. Smile

Thats like me calling you Canadian! Twisted Evil


Cool dude, I'm of scottish decent.

Either way, I was being sarcastic.








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