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Rufio32

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 Is Rock Band helping?
So I'm no expert at drums at all, but I've been playing rock band a lot. I live in an apartment, so I have to keep my drums at my grandparent's house. So I can't just play whenever I want. So anyway, I've played for maybe two years now, and I probably played Rock Band for like 20 hours this past 4 or 5 days. It has seemed to improve my dexterity and my speed a little bit. It has also helped me to not rush or slow down. It has also given me many new fills to work with, and helps in creating fills off the bat. I'm just curious if anybody else feels that Rock Band has helped them as a drummer too?
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king_friday

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...no...sorry...but no
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Rockula!

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The instructors at my store have been discussing the affect that these games have on new students
It seems that the intitial reality of actually playing an instrument cn be a bit of a conceptual hurdle to overcome
This adds to the other difficulties that the beginner has to cope with on top of the frustrations asociated with learning an instrument
The drums suffer the least bcause it is closer to the way drums operate
After all, what is drumming but the process of striking targets based upon a pre-determined pattern?
The guitar intructors have it harder because guitar hero is more removed fom actual guitar playing than the drum counterpart
I haven't played it yet because I am poor and so are my friends but it looks fun
I like the fact that Buckethead is in it
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Wed Jan 02, 2008 11:07 am |
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mrgreenjeans2234

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depends on which way you take it
the actully drumming in the game
hasnt really got affect in real drumming itself
mostly because your just doing the monkey thing
red pad show up on screen you hit red pad
where as real drumming you gotta know
improve and to be able to do anything
with your own direct control over the drums
at any given time.
now. having said all that
it will improve your technique
in some sense mainly because your playing
practice pads. as long as you use proper technique
and actuly use some rudiments in your
playing of the game
then youll gain a little better technique
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Wed Jan 02, 2008 7:12 pm |
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fmarano

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I bought rock band with all intentions of being great on the drum part. I totally suck at the drums on rock band. lol I am no wiz on a real set but I have been playing for 5 years. I just couldnt put the two together... I will stick to the real kit as to not lose any technique...
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shanemunzert

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rock band+guitar hero=thumbs down. mindless entertainment at best.
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Cheerful-Bear

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What?!? No!! It's basically set up like 4 drums and a bass pedal. On real drumsets theres a bass pedal, hi-hat pedal, cymbals, and drums. They're hardly similar at all!
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Fri Jan 25, 2008 6:22 pm |
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SingleStroke7

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I can't figure out why people would spend valuable time playing these video games, rather than practicing their instrument. And that also goes for people that don't play at all. It seems to me that if they are intersted in these games, they are interested in playing music. I've only played guitar hero, and just a couple of times, but i've been playing guitar since 1992 and i laugh when people talk about it as if they are impressed with someones performance at it, due to the fact that it is nothing at all like playing guitar.
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I love Cheese and drums

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SingleStroke7 wrote:I can't figure out why people would spend valuable time playing these video games, rather than practicing their instrument. And that also goes for people that don't play at all. It seems to me that if they are intersted in these games, they are interested in playing music. I've only played guitar hero, and just a couple of times, but i've been playing guitar since 1992 and i laugh when people talk about it as if they are impressed with someones performance at it, due to the fact that it is nothing at all like playing guitar.
Agreed, I've seen people who dont play guitar at all and they beat a really tough song and they'l be all proud of themselves.
My Highschool band director was playing it and got annoyed when he was half way through a Rage against the Machine song and had barely played any guitar parts yet. Then the solo was wasnt even guitar but turn tables!
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Sun Feb 03, 2008 7:34 pm |
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SingleStroke7

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I love Cheese and drums wrote:SingleStroke7 wrote:I can't figure out why people would spend valuable time playing these video games, rather than practicing their instrument. And that also goes for people that don't play at all. It seems to me that if they are intersted in these games, they are interested in playing music. I've only played guitar hero, and just a couple of times, but i've been playing guitar since 1992 and i laugh when people talk about it as if they are impressed with someones performance at it, due to the fact that it is nothing at all like playing guitar.
Agreed, I've seen people who dont play guitar at all and they beat a really tough song and they'l be all proud of themselves.
My Highschool band director was playing it and got annoyed when he was half way through a Rage against the Machine song and had barely played any guitar parts yet. Then the solo was wasnt even guitar but turn tables!
I didn't even know that they had turntables in rockband!
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Mon Feb 04, 2008 2:53 pm |
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I love Cheese and drums

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Crap I'm sorry that was Guitar Hero 3.
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Mon Feb 04, 2008 6:28 pm |
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SingleStroke7

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I love Cheese and drums wrote:Crap I'm sorry that was Guitar Hero 3. 
Oh, but even still, Rage NEVER used turntables on anything. It says right in their liner notes on every record: "all sounds made by guitar, drums, bass and vocals."
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Mon Feb 04, 2008 9:20 pm |
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Rockula!

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(Insert pretentious music dork comment here)
The turn table scratching stuff is achieved by running your hand or a pick up the wound strings
It can sound more muted when you use your skin and sharper with a pick or your fingernails
I thought it was a turntable as well until I saw them live
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Tue Feb 05, 2008 1:47 pm |
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Codymunzert

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no but thats a fun game
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Wed Feb 06, 2008 8:23 pm |
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yammy1688

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 Check out DTXMANIA
It's like rock band, but with a real drum set. You hook up your e-kit to your computer via midi and it plays a song and scrolls the drum tab basically. Most of the songs just use HH/snare/ride/htom/ltom/bass, but some include the crash and ftom as well. Some of the user made songs even have hi-hat and ride/bell detection for the songs.
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Wed Mar 12, 2008 12:54 pm |
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Manzo

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it really wont improve your playing, buy a small electronic kit or a pad setup kit. Rock band is fun, dont get me wrong, but it wont make you a better drummer...
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Wed Mar 12, 2008 4:27 pm |
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SGarrett

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Are you guys missing the blatantly obvious point that by playing the drums on Rock Band you're playing to metronomically perfect music and playing music you might not otherwise play?
Yes, playing this game will help you tremendously if you don't already practice to a metronome. Especially if you put in those kinds of hours. I would recommend you spend some of that time playing rudiments on a practice pad, to a metronome, though.
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Wed Mar 12, 2008 5:32 pm |
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JasonDeLima

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It helped me learn one new drum technique. I play Rock Band just for fun. I don't feel any flattery when I beat anything. It annoys me when people beat one of the hardest songs on guitar hero, and they go around and brag about it. Yet they don't play a real instrument.
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SGarrett

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JasonDeLima wrote:It helped me learn one new drum technique. I play Rock Band just for fun. I don't feel any flattery when I beat anything. It annoys me when people beat one of the hardest songs on guitar hero, and they go around and brag about it. Yet they don't play a real instrument.
What annoys me is when people play a real instrument but spend more time trying to get 100% on GH or RB than they do with their actual instrument.
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titaniumSS

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SGarrett wrote:JasonDeLima wrote:It helped me learn one new drum technique. I play Rock Band just for fun. I don't feel any flattery when I beat anything. It annoys me when people beat one of the hardest songs on guitar hero, and they go around and brag about it. Yet they don't play a real instrument.
What annoys me is when people play a real instrument but spend more time trying to get 100% on GH or RB than they do with their actual instrument.
But I'm soooooo close!  just kidding. I only play it when it's too late to drum. Neighbors already don't like me lol
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xdoseonex

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yes without a doubt. But only for timing. getting around the kit is alot different than it is on a real set. so it doesnt improve chops.
But as far as playing steadily for long period of time your absolutely out of your mind if you think rock band isn't gonna help wit that. Rock band can do wonders for your timing
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Tue Mar 25, 2008 12:14 pm |
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gg5000

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I think that playing to a record is good for your drumming whether you're playing a real kit, pillows or the game's kit. It helps you concentrate on the time and the material being played. Now, if you want to be a good drummer, then you gotta play drums. You can't really practice technique on the game though, because the songs don't have parts with rudiments... they're just beats so it doesn't really translate into good technical practice. It does help you playing time though. But again, you can do that with an Ipod, a pair of sticks and a pillow.
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Tue Mar 25, 2008 12:30 pm |
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TehPaco

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well me personaly think its fun but i like all of you guys said i am annoyed when people are like "omgzz i own at guitar hero but all i can play on guitar is the fake version of smoke on the watterrrrrr". I own the game and i dont play it that much because if you are playing it to get better at tempo or anything then
then go practice on a practice pad with a metronome and head phones.
edit: gg5000
lol didnt see your post but i agree totaly.
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Thu Apr 03, 2008 6:08 pm |
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indecks

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I don't consider my self a 'drummer' yet since I'm still a newbie to playing but I play a lot of RockBand and I have to say - No it will not teach you how to play drums. But it WILL help you with timing, as well as splitting your right arm and right leg (if you're a righty, left if you're a lefty). And this is truth, it helped me a lot with splitting my brain between right arm and right leg.
It's much 'closer' to the real thing than Guitar Hero of course, but it's not nearly as complex as playing on a real drumset.
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Wed Apr 09, 2008 1:16 pm |
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JasonDeLima

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indecks wrote:I don't consider my self a 'drummer' yet since I'm still a newbie to playing but I play a lot of RockBand and I have to say - No it will not teach you how to play drums. But it WILL help you with timing, as well as splitting your right arm and right leg (if you're a righty, left if you're a lefty). And this is truth, it helped me a lot with splitting my brain between right arm and right leg.
It's much 'closer' to the real thing than Guitar Hero of course, but it's not nearly as complex as playing on a real drumset.
Yes it did, because it helped me split my right leg and my right arm as well. I can do those quarter notes on the hi-hat, while keeping a steady beat with my other arm and my leg.
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DrummerZ

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Cheerful-Bear wrote:What?!? No!! It's basically set up like 4 drums and a bass pedal. On real drumsets theres a bass pedal, hi-hat pedal, cymbals, and drums. They're hardly similar at all!
come on, you gotta get a laugh from watching them on youtube and then seeing the comments like "omfg man you pwnzors guitar!" "holy shit you're heaps better than a real guitarist!"
most are 8 year olds but its still fun
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