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smirnoff180
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 best zijlan cymbal is.....
yo just wanting to know what the other drummers thought was THE best zijlan cymbal made to date......
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Tue Feb 26, 2008 6:28 am |
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eml
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There is no such cymbal as "the best cymbal" in my opinion.
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Tue Feb 26, 2008 6:29 am |
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SGarrett
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I hate the aspect of American consumerism that says there has to be a "best" for everything.
This is an art form and as such the "best" products are the ones that work for you and your musical vision.
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DrumsPlus
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eml wrote:There is no such cymbal as "the best cymbal" in my opinion.
+1
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rufus4dagruv
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Never heard of Zijlan...is that another long lost relative of Kerope or Avedis?
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Tue Feb 26, 2008 9:47 am |
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stump
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It's all one's opinion. I have heard some people say that a cymbal, which in my opinion sounds like crap, is the best thing they have ever heard. I have my favorites as does everyone else....but that is all that it is...preference. Peace on ya!
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Tue Feb 26, 2008 11:07 am |
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smirnoff180
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ok what i meant was the best sounding in like a rock/type setting.........i have some ZBT's and ZXT's that sound fine....but id like to know what cymbals sound just as good, only ring slitghlty longer and with a fuller sound! no part of that was consumerism......simple opinionated question
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Tue Feb 26, 2008 1:57 pm |
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smirnoff180
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or simply best sound for the price
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Tue Feb 26, 2008 1:58 pm |
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Manzo
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there is no best cymbal, its all preference and what you think sounds best for what music you play. Experiment.
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Tue Mar 04, 2008 9:10 am |
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xdoseonex
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anyones best cymbal if theyre favorite. and we already have a "whats your favorite cymbal" thread
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Tue Mar 04, 2008 9:38 pm |
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b b253
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the best cymbal is whatever ur opinion on your favorite cymbal is so my favorite cymbal would be 18" aax even tho i dont own 1
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Tue Mar 04, 2008 9:44 pm |
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nugg_dawg
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My favorite out of my kit is a 6" A Custom spash. I like to play it choked and it sits a quick wrist flick from my hi-hat.
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RANKBand.com
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A Custom Crash's are my favorite. Do yourself a favor if you're playing ZBT, ZXT or ZHT series, and go to the music store and crash an A Custom...its like a burst of brilliant sound, whereas those Z's are like trash can lids by comparison. Even many Avedis (A) series Zildjian's sound like trash can lids by comparison in my opinion.
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Sat Apr 12, 2008 6:33 pm |
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Fish
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SGarrett wrote:I hate the aspect of American consumerism that says there has to be a "best" for everything.
This is an art form and as such the "best" products are the ones that work for you and your musical vision.
Well put. That being said, I'm looking to buy some cymbals, what would you suggest? :p 
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Wed Apr 16, 2008 12:04 am |
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Paul709
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There really is no "best" cymbal. It all depends on the person playing it. There are people who make the Sabian B8 series sound like the songs of a siren.
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Wed Apr 23, 2008 9:49 am |
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vincemie
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high end cymbals are individually molded as opposed to cheaper cymbals which are cut from the same sheet of metal. therefore if you took 3 or 4 of the exact same make, model, and sizes of high end cymbal and played them all they would all sound different whatever the best cymbal is is the one thats right for YOU. my favorite zildjian is my 20 inch k dark ride given to me by a friend who passed away, i treasure it for many reasons however it also happens to my my favorite sounding and feeling ride out of 5 ride's that i have
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sgtphilko
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RANKBand.com wrote:A Custom Crash's are my favorite. Do yourself a favor if you're playing ZBT, ZXT or ZHT series, and go to the music store and crash an A Custom...its like a burst of brilliant sound, whereas those Z's are like trash can lids by comparison. Even many Avedis (A) series Zildjian's sound like trash can lids by comparison in my opinion.
I totally agree. I got ZBTs for free with my set and was never happy with them. Didn't know what I was missing until I tried the A Customs. WOW! I bought a full set-up of A Customs. The crashes are my favorite. Now, I'm starting to get tired of the high-hats and want something a little more crisp...I'm thinking about going paiste.
The "best cymbal" is definitely subjective, but I wonder why people on here aren't at least giving their opinion on this thread.
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Wed Apr 23, 2008 11:24 pm |
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luke_schonenberger
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I've found over the years it depends completely upon opinion and style of music.
Sometimes ive found when playing metal Paiste Rudes or Large A custom projections have suited really well, however have been too heavy and too loud for other styles of music where I have used fast decaying or more washy cymbals such as some of the K series. Anyone agree?
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Thu Apr 24, 2008 12:54 pm |
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k0staZ
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rufus4dagruv wrote:Never heard of Zijlan...is that another long lost relative of Kerope or Avedis?
Zildjian is since 1603 i think so.....
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Sun Apr 27, 2008 2:53 am |
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k0staZ
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You can say best sounding dark crash cymbal or best sounding medium ride because there are a lot of different crashes or rides etc and you can't compare them....Personaly i like the A Customs
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Sun Apr 27, 2008 2:55 am |
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shine.fm-youth
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k0staZ wrote:rufus4dagruv wrote:Never heard of Zijlan...is that another long lost relative of Kerope or Avedis?
Zildjian is since 1603 i think so.....
he was being sarcastic....
and yea dude, it's all up to you..
i play saluda, but if i didn't i'd play a mix of the A customs and K customs
simply because i like the way they sound
ooh and some istanbul agops
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Sun Apr 27, 2008 8:29 am |
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PDP9000
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Its all all up to you.
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Wed Apr 30, 2008 6:28 pm |
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b b253
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rufus4dagruv wrote:Never heard of Zijlan...is that another long lost relative of Kerope or Avedis?
lol.
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TDB3
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There is no "best" cymbal because it is true that some people can make the worste cymbal sound great. 
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Sat Jul 05, 2008 5:36 pm |
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Olimpass
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Vintage Zildjian K Istanbul Turkey Cymbals!!! You get what you pay for!!
20" ride $1400!!
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Tue Jul 29, 2008 1:43 pm |
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Alan_
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is that yours? that's some pretty extreme lathing for an old k...
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Tue Jul 29, 2008 1:47 pm |
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Alan_
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it might just be the light. most of the ones I've seen have very visible hammer marks. looks really nice tho.
most of the ones I've seen look more like this gem I found on ebay:
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Tue Jul 29, 2008 1:55 pm |
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Alan_
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tiny bit of keyholing, but I'd still buy it if I were in the market.
edit: if anybody's looking to buy an old k, the auction on this one has a day left, and it's at 700 bux so far. here's the link:
http://cgi.ebay.com/20-K-Zildjian-Istanbul-Ride-Pre-1968-Real-Deal-Old-K_W0QQitemZ330255726223QQihZ014QQcategoryZ41446QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Kris
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K's in my book.
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Wed Jul 30, 2008 9:42 am |
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Alan_
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Alan_ wrote:tiny bit of keyholing, but I'd still buy it if I were in the market.
edit: if anybody's looking to buy an old k, the auction on this one has a day left, and it's at 700 bux so far. here's the link:
http://cgi.ebay.com/20-K-Zildjian-Istanbul-Ride-Pre-1968-Real-Deal-Old-K_W0QQitemZ330255726223QQihZ014QQcategoryZ41446QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
it's only gotten up to $710, 5 hours left.
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Olimpass
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Steve@NDC
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Dang, I wish I could afford those...
Since I'm poor, and love trashy thin Ks, these might be the ticket...
http://shop.virtualcymbals.com/category.sc?categoryId=59
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Alan_
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bingo. dream cymbals are really really good. they certainly don't sound like cheap cymbals.
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Mon Aug 04, 2008 1:15 pm |
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rufus4dagruv
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Olimpass wrote:Here's a doosey! OMG!! For the Richblooded! 24" Zildjian K Istanbul! Anybody who'd buy this without trying it is crazy!!!
Hey, up to $25 back on a new ebay master card!!! LOL! 
http://cgi.ebay.com/Zildjian-24-K-Istanbul-Ride-Cymbal-Paper-THIN-Vnt-60s_W0QQitemZ350084000250QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item350084000250&_trkparms=72%3A552%7C39%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14.l1318
Heh, hardly paper-thin. I actually know the guy who sold that pie to the guy who's selling it. It's really not too bad of a deal, as it's an investment piece for the most part. Considering the public record for a 22" K Istanbul old stamp (I believe it was around 2200 grams), was $3211 and change, and 24's are much more rare, it's not too bad. Could have a nice ROI, but it's going to take many years to cash in on it, me thinks.
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Kris
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My Preference is the K's, but I have quite a few A's as well.
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Tue Aug 05, 2008 11:37 pm |
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I love Cheese and drums
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K'S or A Customs
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I love Cheese and drums
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escpecially K Hybrids
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Steve@NDC
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Alan_ wrote:bingo. dream cymbals are really really good. they certainly don't sound like cheap cymbals.
I hadn't planned on it, but I bought a set of Bliss cymbals the other night at a local 5 Star Dealer. 20" ride, 18" crash, 14" hats. They're really cool sounding cymbals for the low $$.
I'll post a full-review in a few days, after I've had a chance to do some heavy playing and listening with them on a kit.
Oh, and just so I'm not guilty of completely highjacking this thread -- A Customs, Z Customs, and Ks are all great rock cymbals. If you're playing super-loud modern rock, the As are great. If you're more into the metal side, the Zs.
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Wed Aug 06, 2008 10:39 am |
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planet Z all the way!!!!!
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