Ok, I've only been involved with acoustic drums thus far and now am really wanting to get a couple of drum pads to get different electronic sounds included with my set. I was thinking a kick pad for 808 and big deep sounds to the right of my bass drum pedal and also a drum pad on my left side for different snare sounds. My question is what do I need other than the kick pad and snare pad. Modules? Anything else? I'm new to electronics. Wood and metal is my world lol








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Well, you'll need the prerequisite cables and whatnot, and a module. What module you get is up to you.








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really wanting to get a couple of drum pads to get different electronic sounds included with my set. I was thinking a kick pad for 808 and big deep sounds to the right of my bass drum pedal and also a drum pad on my left side for different snare sounds. My question is what do I need other than the kick pad and snare pad. Modules?

the big question, especially considering you want big, deep sounds is what is your amplification setup?
Will you be running this through a house PA? Or will you have to provide your own amp, just for the E-drums?
For big, deep sounds you need a healthy system to reproduce those tones at volume.

Of course, the basics =

trigger/drum pad
stereo cables
module/soundsource/laptop
audio cables (output)
mounting hardware/stands
power source (you may not have had to 'plug in' your drums before)
monitoring system = (headphones/IEMS, amp, or PA)

one way people are commonly incorporating E-drums in their acoustic setup these days is with a 'multipad' unit like the Roland SPD-s.
http://rolandus.com/products/productdetails.aspx?ObjectId=537&ParentId=61

With it, you have several independent triggering zones, the capability of adding a pedal, and sampling ability. You can trigger phrases, play tuned notes, or play it like a small kit. This is certainly the most economical 'all-in-one' approach to hybridizing your kit.
You get 9 pads & a module/sampler in one purchase, plus you don't need multiple cables connecting pads to module. You don't need multiple sets of hardware or stands. You can monitor straight from the unit with headphones/IEMs. They go for around $500, but you'd be hard pressed to add its equivalent in gear for less. One of the only drawbacks I can think of is that the pads don't offer the kind of sensitivity you can get from individual E-drum pads; if you want to play it like a drum with realistic levels of nuance, that might be a little tricky.








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Great! Thank you both of you.

M - thats funny because I was actually looking at the SPD-20 not too long ago. I thought about it though and for me, I'm very active onstage and I know it would probably be a hassle for me to try and flow smoothly with a sampling pad. So it sounds like I'll be getting a snare pad, a kick pad, a module, cables, and hardware. I'll just be plugging it into the house PA at shows and I've got a smaller PA at my house for practicing.

Thanks guys! Now I know what to look for (seems like a Roland TD-6V, with either a KD-120 or KD-85, and a PD-85 or a PDX-.








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sounds like you've done your homework and know what you're getting into.
One of the reasons I haven't pulled the trigger on an SPD-s is that I prefer my E-elements to fit into the kit so I can play them like drums-
I've always used individual pads because of that.

If you really want to squeeze a bass pedal in there, a used KD7 could be had for really cheap, and would barely take anymore than the pedal itself, if you don't mind an inverted beater. I used to use one as an aux pedal and it's MUCH easier to fit those into an acoustic kit. Cheap, too!
Or, perhaps put a trigger on your acoustic bass? Or, if you use Axis pedals, the Axis E-kit lets you trigger directly from the pedal- you don't need a pad or drum.

let us know how it all works out








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I looked into triggers, they confuse me more than anything lol how does the KD7 work? I looked at it and was kinda thinking haha. And I use all DW hardware and drums, so no axis for me.








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the KD7 is a very small 'pad' that attaches to a pedal and takes up virtually no floorspace at all. They are discontinued now, but probably not that hard to find used. These are what Thomas Lang uses for his multi-pedal setups, for the very reason that you can cram a bunch into a small space:



You just run a cable from that small base under the pad to your module, and you're set. You can also 'daisy-chain' them if you'd like to run more than one. They're no less responsive than any other rubber pad Roland makes- if space is an issue, these are worth considering.

Triggers might be a little tricky for your application I guess, if you're not wanting to layer E over A, but rather keep them separate.
They're not that hard to figure out and set up, but pads might be more convenient in your case.








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That looks like a perfect match for what I'm doing! I found two on ebay. I think I'll start bidding! Thanks alot, I don't know if I would've found that without your help. Now just to get the cables, module and nice mesh pad for the snare.








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Got my eye on one right now. I was going to consider getting another DW single 5000 pedal for this but the one that comes with it doesn't seem too bad. Double chain and looks decently durable.








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