I wanted to post this because there is always so much controversy over brands and models of equipment.
I don't agree with a lot of the debates and never take part in them because I believe that "it's the carpenter, not the tools" that matter.
I saw Spyro Gyra tonight and I was blown away.
I talked to the drummer afterwards and asked him, "what kind of Hi-Hats were they. He said, "oh, those are an old pair of New Beats." the whole time I was thinking that they were probably Mastersounds. LOL.
It just goes to show ya.
I think Phil Collins used New Beats on all the Genesis recordings before endorsing Sabian.








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New Beats are great hats. And I've never liked the sound Mastersound hats.








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Love my New Beats!!! I have Z Master sounds also and they don't sound at all bad. All of my recording is done with my NB's though and they sound fantastic. Peace on ya!








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"New Beats" have been around for a long time and have undergone many changes over the years. Personally, I prefer the sound of my older 70's NBs to any of the ones Z put out since the 80's. The weights increased too much for my liking, but then again I prefer lighter weight hats. The carpenter/tools analogy does ring true, too.








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my newbeats are from about 2003 and I love them.... i dont' know why they get so much beef here








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New Beat hi hats pretty much set the standard for hi hats, in my opinion. They are always very consistent from pair to pair. I don’t know why they get such a bad rap from some drummers; I think it part of some peoples’ mind set that if it isn’t the latest thing, it sucks. I also don’t care too much for the Mastersounds even though I have a pair of K Mastersound hi hats. I had them autographed at the NAMM show one year and I chose them because I don’t use them all that often. Right now, I am in love with my plain K Zildjian hi hats, with my K/Z s following a close second and then my New Beats. And yes, I do feel fortunate to be able to tailor my sound to the gig I am playing.








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ive had my 14'' new beats for 5 or 6 years now and love them. the only thing i would swap them for is 15'' new beats!!!








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I don't have New Beats per se, but my 15" A's are close. They have a medium top and a heavy bottom.

The other pair of hats I use are Bosphorous hand-hammered medium waight 14".








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i've been playing 15" a cstm mastersounds for a while now, and i also have a set of 14" NBs. after reading this lately here about the beats, i switched them out for a while, and they sounded a lot better than what i remembered. i'm actually glad i still have them around now. but, i do prefer the 15s.








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My 14" pair are also from the 1970's, and I've always felt the same way. They're great because they fit so many different musical environments.

rufus4dagruv wrote:

"New Beats" have been around for a long time and have undergone many changes over the years. Personally, I prefer the sound of my older 70's NBs to any of the ones Z put out since the 80's. The weights increased too much for my liking, but then again I prefer lighter weight hats. The carpenter/tools analogy does ring true, too.

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I believe the top hat for Mastersounds are actually New Beats and I think I read this on the Ask Zildjian web page. I have 14" New Beats, Quick Beats and an A Custom Mastersound bottom hat that I play with the A New Beat top and it sounds GREAAAT! I do agree that the older New Beats from the 70's and 80's were a little lighter and are good, but I disagree that anything could sound better than Mastersounds. A good drummer can make any professional grade set of hats sound good, but think of how much better they could sound with Mastersounds.

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A good drummer can make any professional grade set of hats sound good, but think of how much better they could sound with Mastersounds.

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I have played on 2 year old new beats and 20 year old new beats. The 20 year old new beats i think sound the best becuase they have an older sound. im an older style guy so i crave vintage equipment. The 2 year old new beats sound really bright, it aight bad but its not the sound of the older pair. aside form New Beats, i think that 13 inch K's sound awesome. These hi-hats sound like hi-hats off old jazz recoreding.

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I have played on 2 year old new beats and 20 year old new beats. The 20 year old new beats i think sound the best becuase they have an older sound. im an older style guy so i crave vintage equipment. The 2 year old new beats sound really bright, it aight bad but its not the sound of the older pair. aside form New Beats, i think that 13 inch K's sound awesome. These hi-hats sound like hi-hats off old jazz recoreding.

I bet you'd like the new Armand series Zidjian's, which are supposed to capture that vintage sound.