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xdoseonex groove master
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I love the way kids wanna give crazy names to everything. I actually coined a blasting technique i call the "HYDRO BLAST" just becasue i felt it needed a rediculous name that didnt make any sense.
Truth is the original blast beat is a sped up thrash beat. the slayer beat. right hand +right foot, snare by itself. rinse and repeat. all these other things are just crazy blast variations and ways to create a wall of sound. people name them all the time. its doesnt mean any of them are actually called that.
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Thu Apr 03, 2008 2:04 pm
Alan_ groove master
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what I think of as the classic thrash beat is quarters on the ride hand, snare on 2 and 4, bass on 1 and 3 with an eighth note gallop on the bass drum. getting into faster territory, then I omit the ride on 2 and 4 but keep the double stroke bass drum gallop on 3.
seriously, some of you grind/death drummers make me wonder if it's even worth it to pick double bass back up again. I can still play dave lombardo fast (a friend has a double pedal on his kit, and I can still play war ensemble, angel of death, raining blood, things like that...albeit kinda sloppy but I haven't played double bass in years so I don't feel TOO bad)...but man some of you guys are just UNREAL.
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Alan_ wrote:
what I think of as the classic thrash beat is quarters on the ride hand, snare on 2 and 4, bass on 1 and 3 with an eighth note gallop on the bass drum. getting into faster territory, then I omit the ride on 2 and 4 but keep the double stroke bass drum gallop on 3.
seriously, some of you grind/death drummers make me wonder if it's even worth it to pick double bass back up again. I can still play dave lombardo fast (a friend has a double pedal on his kit, and I can still play war ensemble, angel of death, raining blood, things like that...albeit kinda sloppy but I haven't played double bass in years so I don't feel TOO bad)...but man some of you guys are just UNREAL.
Yeah, its like a new era. George Kollias hits 16ths at 270 stright single strokes on one of his new recordings. I don"t know what band, probably Nile
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Thu Apr 03, 2008 2:51 pm
Alan_ groove master
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yikes!
dose, do you do anything weird/not just straight singles like that swivel technique? I'm gonna scour the web for all sorts of stuff if I get a double pedal again.
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Alan_ wrote:
yikes!
dose, do you do anything weird/not just straight singles like that swivel technique? I'm gonna scour the web for all sorts of stuff if I get a double pedal again.
I'd never used swivel, but I find myself adapting a bit of a swivel at slower tempos lately. My wfd vidoe shows my pedal technique pretty well. I just hit alot harder and my beaters come back alot further when i'm actually playing
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Thu Apr 03, 2008 5:30 pm
Metaldrummer89 drumming adept
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xdoseonex wrote:
Alan_ wrote:
what I think of as the classic thrash beat is quarters on the ride hand, snare on 2 and 4, bass on 1 and 3 with an eighth note gallop on the bass drum. getting into faster territory, then I omit the ride on 2 and 4 but keep the double stroke bass drum gallop on 3.
seriously, some of you grind/death drummers make me wonder if it's even worth it to pick double bass back up again. I can still play dave lombardo fast (a friend has a double pedal on his kit, and I can still play war ensemble, angel of death, raining blood, things like that...albeit kinda sloppy but I haven't played double bass in years so I don't feel TOO bad)...but man some of you guys are just UNREAL.
Yeah, its like a new era. George Kollias hits 16ths at 270 stright single strokes on one of his new recordings. I don"t know what band, probably Nile
i think his newest gig is sickening horror. don't remember hearing anything quite that fast on it tho. their better than nile guitarist-wise.
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Metaldrummer89 wrote:
xdoseonex wrote:
Yeah, its like a new era. George Kollias hits 16ths at 270 stright single strokes on one of his new recordings. I don"t know what band, probably Nile
i think his newest gig is sickening horror. don't remember hearing anything quite that fast on it tho. their better than nile guitarist-wise.
That was his old band, Jose Theodorakis plays for them now
Thu Apr 03, 2008 6:12 pm
jaundiced drumming adept
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The way I learned it is that the blast beat is when the snare/kick are on the "down"beat and it's a grind beat when the kick and snare alternate. There's a hundred references to these, this is just my lingo to differentiate. Not that anyone was looking this either, but here's another gravity blast example.
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Thu Apr 03, 2008 6:13 pm
chocobebear drumming adept
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i think gravity blast is the same method i use...
it's using gravity to let the stick rebound from the snare, with the wrist following the "flow of the stick movement" thus less tension and effort...
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xdoseonex wrote:
I love the way kids wanna give crazy names to everything. I actually coined a blasting technique i call the "HYDRO BLAST" just becasue i felt it needed a rediculous name that didnt make any sense.
Truth is the original blast beat is a sped up thrash beat. the slayer beat. right hand +right foot, snare by itself. rinse and repeat. all these other things are just crazy blast variations and ways to create a wall of sound. people name them all the time. its doesnt mean any of them are actually called that.
Not trying to argue nomenclature, but to play Slayer right you should be hitting the hat/ride on every beat, with both the snare and bass
Sat Apr 05, 2008 8:52 am
xdoseonex groove master
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Empyrean Drums wrote:
xdoseonex wrote:
I love the way kids wanna give crazy names to everything. I actually coined a blasting technique i call the "HYDRO BLAST" just becasue i felt it needed a rediculous name that didnt make any sense.
Truth is the original blast beat is a sped up thrash beat. the slayer beat. right hand +right foot, snare by itself. rinse and repeat. all these other things are just crazy blast variations and ways to create a wall of sound. people name them all the time. its doesnt mean any of them are actually called that.
Not trying to argue nomenclature, but to play Slayer right you should be hitting the hat/ride on every beat, with both the snare and bass
i'm talking about a different beat. its essentialls a single stroke roll between you hats and snare with your right foot following your right hand. speed it up, and you have you single bass blastbeat
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Empyrean Drums groove master
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xdoseonex wrote:
Empyrean Drums wrote:
xdoseonex wrote:
I love the way kids wanna give crazy names to everything. I actually coined a blasting technique i call the "HYDRO BLAST" just becasue i felt it needed a rediculous name that didnt make any sense.
Truth is the original blast beat is a sped up thrash beat. the slayer beat. right hand +right foot, snare by itself. rinse and repeat. all these other things are just crazy blast variations and ways to create a wall of sound. people name them all the time. its doesnt mean any of them are actually called that.
Not trying to argue nomenclature, but to play Slayer right you should be hitting the hat/ride on every beat, with both the snare and bass
i'm talking about a different beat. its essentialls a single stroke roll between you hats and snare with your right foot following your right hand. speed it up, and you have you single bass blastbeat
I know, and I'm not trying to imply if that's how you play "thrash" beat it's wrong-just that there is another way
Sat Apr 05, 2008 9:23 am
Brother_Bong groove master
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Man the guy from Black Dahlia just doesn't let up!
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