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Hello all,

I just purchased a Yamaha DTXpress II, and I've spent many hours lovingly setting it up last night - when I started playing on it, just to get a feel for the set, rebound, sound, etc... I started playing a typical eighth note rock beat and on the notes where I hit the hi-hat (closed) and snare at the same time, the snare would often not make a sound.

I tried just hitting the snare and hi-hat at the same time, and most times the snare wouldn't play unless I hit the snare very hard, and sometimes the hi-hats wouldn't play. Basically, only one or the other would play at the same time, unless I hit them both fairly hard (harder than should be required).

I went through the manual and tried adjusting things like the gain, rejection and alternate group but wasn't able to improve it.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

FYI: When playing just the hi-hats or just the snare, they play 100% of the time no matter how hard they are hit. This only occurs when they are hit at the same time. This problem doesn't seem to occur to any other pair of pads.

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sYnth







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I'm not familiar with the Yammie models, but what you describe sounds like cross-talk rejection.
I'm not sure what parameters you'd need to tweak on that particular module (sounds like you've tried most of them anyway) but on the Roland units you assign pads to the same cross-talk groups if you want them to reject each other. You need to disable that by either turning it off or assigning them to different groups, not the same one. I think it sounds like you've already tried to do that though, sorry if that's not helping.

Is it a new kit?








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Thanks for the reply.

I thought that might be it too, but the snare and hi-hat are set to different groups and they don't cancel each other. If I play the hi hat and then play the snare right afterwards, it doesn't cancel the hi-hat, it still plays both sounds. Only if they are hit at the exact same time does only one play.

The set is used. Do you think this could be caused by some sort of damage? Other than this issue, everything works great, and the snare and hi-hat will play at the same time but only if hit hard enough, so it seems to me to be more of a settings issue. At least, I would rather it be that than the unit is damaged.

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have you tried a factory reset on the module?
Sounds like a really weird glitch, if it's not the cross-talk settings and both pads are functioning well on their own.

Might want to try asking at http://vdrums.com/forum/








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Could be a cable issue, does it only happen when your hitting a certain drum pad?
I would unplug all from the brain unit , then plug one in at a time and keep testing as you go , when you get to the one that starts the problem, check the settings on that input on the brain unit , or switch a cable and try again. Otherwise its new , call yamaha's Tech support. Or take it back and get a new one.








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sYnth wrote:
Thanks for the reply.

I thought that might be it too, but the snare and hi-hat are set to different groups and they don't cancel each other. If I play the hi hat and then play the snare right afterwards, it doesn't cancel the hi-hat, it still plays both sounds. Only if they are hit at the exact same time does only one play.

sYnth

Did you mess with the xtalk anyway, 'couse thats what I would guess too. Cross talk has nothing to do with the unit produceing both sounds at once. It sences whene you hit one pad and puts like a gate type thing on th others so that if they are on the same stand, they don't trigger eachother. Good luck dude.








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Thank you all for your replies.

Turns out I was able to fix the problem by altering the Specific Rejection settings - and FATHER TIME, you're right - they were setup that way on purpose so that hitting the snare really hard doesn't trigger the hi-hats. So, I've diled that setting in nicely and it's working like a charm now.

There are so many freaking settings on this thing, it's incredible.

I appreciate all your help!

sYnth











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