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GhostxNote

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 The "High-School Drummer"
Has anybody ever had a "over-hyped" drummer in their high-school, like the pretty much categorized as the "the best" drummer. I had one of those in my school everyone constantly talked about him and such and thought he was amazing while there where other drummers who got no chance under the spot light. Has anybody experienced this or have a "High-School Drummer"
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iatemygoat

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yeah it was me haha. kidding kidding! i know what you mean though. i had like a rivalry between a kid at my school. but i took it more seriously then he did and kinda passed him up. i havent seen or spoken to him since highschool. makes me wonder what hes doin now?
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Alan_

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there were a few of us that were pretty good. it was totally healthy competition tho. we'd get together and show each other stuff.
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Metaldrummer89

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i wasn't overhyped man, i was da-badest-mufucker-in-da-world.
Alan_ wrote:there were a few of us that were pretty good. it was totally healthy competition tho. we'd get together and show each other stuff.
Thats how it was at my high school. we rotated playing on each others kits every couple weeks. I was hated by the other drummers tho because i had been playing half as long as them and was better than all but one. i've surpassed him now but he's making alot of money playing.
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The "this guy's totally better than you" thing only happened to me once and I didn't give a rat's ass about it. When he came up from 8th to 9th, we actually became friends by joking about it. He even told me, "I don't know why people think I'm better than you" one time.
I don't know, drumming's never been about competition to me. I prefer sports and/or exercise for releasing my competitive energy.
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NH

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it was me for a short while but then a new sixth former came and hes got the spot light...
not bragging but i'm probs better than him, i've never seen him do anything special and he aint even got a kit or know how to look after one.
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Yeah, in high school that guy was one of my best friends. He was a drumline kid - played marching tenors. He wasn't completely over-hyped: he was a verifiable badass at marching percussion. After HS he went into a division I drum and bugle corps, I believe he teaches marching percussion now. But in retrospect, his style on the drum set was a little underdeveloped. His technique was perfect and that kid sure could MOVE (like all good tenor players), but he tended to be a bit heavy handed, and his solos often sounded pretty much like marches... which is appropriate in some contexts and not in others.
I never got caught up in the competition thing because I was only beginning to learn at that point, and thus I could barely even keep a beat, much less compete with anyone.
Right now I'm a student at a small college in a very small town. There are about a half-dozen competent drummers at the whole school, and once again, there's that one guy who is very clearly at the top of the pecking order, but he knows where he stands in the big scheme of things (he's seen enough of the real world). In other words, he's good, and he knows he's good, but he doesn't claim to be in the same league as Buddy Rich like "the High School Drummer" sometimes will.
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Definitely had a senior like that when I was but a freshman, and then the next year I had to fill his shoes the best I could. The worst part was that he is insanely good. Painfully good.... even still, he has not withered or stopped playing, he's better than ever. What with his left foot claves and ghost notes that don't stop.
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i guess there was a couple of those high school drummers that were in the marching band when i was in hs, and one in particular was really arrogant. he was good but he wasn't hands down better than the rest of us and he only played in the marching band so no one got to see how good he was with a rock band. it was never a competition for me, if i come across a better drummer i try to learn from him not out play him. i am really happy with where i am as a drummer right now but i still have so much to learn, i think the best drummers arent the types described, i think they are the ones that never settle with their skill sets and are always ready to learn new things.
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In the two years I've been at my high school, there have been three or four with that "best" title. I've only seen two, and neither has any skills you won't find amongst the bored kids at Guitar Center every weekend.
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The drummer that I replaced in High School, I had been compared to since I was in middle school. He was a year older than me and came from a family of well known drummers. I was always compared to him. I really didnt mind it, but I made it my goal that I wanted to hear him say that I was better than him before I graduated. One weekend my senior year, my band was playing at a barn party. This guy just happened to be back from college for the weekend and was in attendance. During a break I was talking to him, just catching up, and the words just came out of his mouth. "YOU SOUND GOOD, YOUR DEFENITLY BETTER THAN ME". That was it, all of the comments that I had to hear for years just didnt matter anymore.
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everyone sees th best drummer in my school as the fastest, the most metal.
it was funny when i had a drum off and went all jazz/buddy rich/tech/drum n bass on his ass... you could tell he was like wtf.
people still bum him cause hes a superfast metal drummer, no groove or tech. just speed. Hes a nob too.
Im just tapping away in my band slipping in those little accents
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Rem wrote:everyone sees th best drummer in my school as the fastest, the most metal.
it was funny when i had a drum off and went all jazz/buddy rich/tech/drum n bass on his ass... you could tell he was like wtf.
people still bum him cause hes a superfast metal drummer, no groove or tech. just speed. Hes a nob too.
Im just tapping away in my band slipping in those little accents
haha, that awesome! I had/have a good punk drummer in my school that was "the best" and then the drummer in my band was getting better and better while the punk drummer was playing a lot of guitar and stuff and then eventually the drummer in my band became "the best" and it pissed me off cause all the sudden he could do nothing wrong and everything he did was the greatest thing ever, which just wasnt true! oh well, its all about the rolls in school contests anyway and a lot of rolls are closer to jerking off than music!
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no one really talks about music in our school, but I know one guy who thinks he is the shit at drumming and knows everything. I just laff.
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Happens in every high school out there.....another one that pissed me off in high school was people referring to the band their in as "MY BAND" or Hey have you seen "Random Name's Band?"
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I have one of those in my school. The only difference is that is just that insanely amazing. Like a prodigy, but he is also really humble. He's a great guy.
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boyd_s wrote:I have one of those in my school. The only difference is that is just that insanely amazing. Like a prodigy, but he is also really humble. He's a great guy.
I find that the ones that are really the best tend to be humble.
Their are some good drummers at my school. I definatly not the best but i think im up their with them. I hate to make compition out of drumming unless its like really chill.
IMO competing on drums to me is the equivalent to competative meditating, sorta defeats the purpose of it.
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i suppose i have been that guy for 3 years now. very small school and we had a good 4 of those guys (that was the whole drumline). they were all seniors. my freshman year i stepped in on snare. i was the new oldest of the entire band at just a freshman, and i am still oldest. one of those 4 guys was in a rock band everybody talked about, they were not even mildly successful but at our school they were "legend". they were also the "popular" kids though, the cool guys. they have been broken up for awhile but anyways,
i had a "big" role to fill. i continued learning as much as i could get my hands on. i couldn't get enough, couldn't stop practicing, couldn't stop learning everything there was to know about drums. even studied music theory for a year. i had then realized that these guys were not that great at all, just some guys bashing away on drums. bad technique, couldn't do anything flashy, could do about half of what i could. they could just play fast.
anyways, i am not in the whole "popularity" group, and i always help fellow drummers as much as i can. people don't worship us as they did them. i think it kinda bugs them we are succeeding. and they know we are. i suppose i will be the same guy the younger drummers strive to be better than one day. i will gladly help them with any knowledge i can give them though...
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well if your talkin about the school band then i have no idea what your saying but there are some good drummers at my school not really a best drummer though i dont think.
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At the end of my junior year of high school I was asked to join the school band because we didn't have any drummers. Half the corp were seniors, and graduated. I joined knowing I was as good as everyone, but being self taught and a big goof, I didn't have much in way of technique or time, I couldn't read music. So, I took a back seat to everyone during marching season just so I could learn from everyone. Pep Band came around and the drum section "leader" brought in his crappy Tama kit with his Z Customs that his mommy bought him, and he didn't let anyone play it. So, I pretty much sat in the back watching him during every game screw up "Wipe Out" and every other song. Everyone might have thought he was the best, but I knew I was better than him, but I think the real real players were the cats on the bells. I was blown away by some of the stuff they did during concert season. They had great stick control and technique, and actually knew scales and stuff. But no one gave them any credit because they weren't on the snare.
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I was the only drummer in my high school, which was very small. We had less than 20 people in our concert/pep band, and, being one of three percussionists, I'd have to cover multiple parts. One of the percussionists had a disease that made her so feeble she could only play bells. Neither of them could read music, so it was frustrating at times. I have to say it made me a lot better though, so I'm glad it happened.
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I find that the best of the best are complete assholes. In my HS, there was a guy who started playing when he was 4. He was ambidextrous, and really, REALLY tall. Not fair... peeps would be like, "why cant you play like him?" I was like " Ive only been playing for a year, i dont even own a drumkit." He was an ass. Ive heard Buddy Rich was the biggest ass of all time.
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Multibomber wrote:I find that the best of the best are complete assholes. In my HS, there was a guy who started playing when he was 4. He was ambidextrous, and really, REALLY tall. Not fair... peeps would be like, "why cant you play like him?" I was like " Ive only been playing for a year, i dont even own a drumkit." He was an ass. Ive heard Buddy Rich was the biggest ass of all time.
For every complete ass, you get a guy like Densmore who is quiet and reserved about it. Probably not to the extent that he was, but you get the idea.
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Tue Apr 15, 2008 11:47 pm |
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I didn't play drums in highschool... I actually received my first drumkit as a graduation present. There were two good drummers in my grade, one played in a blink 182 style punk band, the other played in all the ensembles and was a great jazz drummer. The punk kid was known as the best drummer in the school and the jazz kid was ignored because everyone knew he'd blow the punk kid out of the water.
As with everything in highschool... it has less to do with who you actually are and more to do with how you act.
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In my high school, there aren't many drummer, there are only about 5 well known drummer in our small school which one of them is me. My music teacher thinks that i am the best and youngest drummer since I'm only in Grade 9 now and the other great drummer of my school is in grade 11. But I always have a rival since I was in middle school but finally people in my school thinks that he's nothing compared to me!
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Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:54 am |
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There's this one other guy who people think is amazing.
I've seen him play. Nothing special. Doesn't even know what a ghost note is.
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The best drummer at my school has one arm.
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I go to a small college and there are four of us that are "active drummers." Usually we'll do something for chapel or for Thursday night service (I go to a Christian college). I'm the least experienced. I've played for close to six years, but only owned my own drum set for a little less than two years now. I've been in two bands as well.
The guy that is most experienced and considered "the best" is a total ass about it, which is weird because he's in school to be a pastor. (which is one of the flaws of the school-the "most Christian-like" guys are the biggest douche's, but thats for a different forum).
Anyway, the "best" asshole drummer is the popular one solely because he gets the most gigs. Every thinks he's a great drummer. He is good, but not as good as one of the other drummers who is only a freshman. I think I'm as good as him. People who have heard me play have also mentioned that I'm as good as him. As a joke me and the other two guys refer to him as Travis Barker because he's a good drummer whose a bit overrated.
I just hate it when people who don't play the drums say, "oh yeah, Paul's cool. He's an awesome drummer too" because the first thing that pops into my head, Trey's head or David's head (Trey and David are the other two drummers) is "No, he's not cool and his drumming is overrated"
Because I'm the least experienced I rarely get asked to play for chapel or Thursday night. Usually they'll call me in to drive to the drum shop to get Paul (the ass) some new heads. They pay me for my time and gas, which is why I don't really mind running such errands. The few times I have played in chapel though, people have said that I'm pretty damn solid. I can keep time well and I'm the only one of the four who uses a double bass for accents, fills and rolls (Snare-snare-bass-bass type stuff).
Sorry this kind of turned into a rant, but that Paul guy pissed me off today and it just so happens I saw this thread.
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In my "High School" times I was a guitarist and the school's best drummer, a year older than me, was a good friend and we played numerous sessions. Actually he was really good and practicing the hell out of his old colorful mixed drumkit.
As my younger brother got his drums (left handed by the way) I started playing drums on a regular basis and the "high school drummer" tought me a great deal. But yeah there were a few others but not at all that good. He was a great Terry Bozzio fan and I remember night long summer sessions where he just wore his panties ...
good times. very good times.
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TheYardstick wrote:The best drummer at my school has one arm.
are you serious?
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TheYardstick wrote:The best drummer at my school has one arm.
*gasp* You went to school with Def Leppard??
There weren't that many drummers at my school, but I had the other ones telling me how good I was...I didn't think I was THAT great but definitely appreciated it.
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johnisonfire wrote:I go to a small college and there are four of us that are "active drummers." Usually we'll do something for chapel or for Thursday night service (I go to a Christian college). I'm the least experienced. I've played for close to six years, but only owned my own drum set for a little less than two years now. I've been in two bands as well.
The guy that is most experienced and considered "the best" is a total ass about it, which is weird because he's in school to be a pastor. (which is one of the flaws of the school-the "most Christian-like" guys are the biggest douche's, but thats for a different forum).
Anyway, the "best" asshole drummer is the popular one solely because he gets the most gigs. Every thinks he's a great drummer. He is good, but not as good as one of the other drummers who is only a freshman. I think I'm as good as him. People who have heard me play have also mentioned that I'm as good as him. As a joke me and the other two guys refer to him as Travis Barker because he's a good drummer whose a bit overrated.
I just hate it when people who don't play the drums say, "oh yeah, Paul's cool. He's an awesome drummer too" because the first thing that pops into my head, Trey's head or David's head (Trey and David are the other two drummers) is "No, he's not cool and his drumming is overrated"
Because I'm the least experienced I rarely get asked to play for chapel or Thursday night. Usually they'll call me in to drive to the drum shop to get Paul (the ass) some new heads. They pay me for my time and gas, which is why I don't really mind running such errands. The few times I have played in chapel though, people have said that I'm pretty damn solid. I can keep time well and I'm the only one of the four who uses a double bass for accents, fills and rolls (Snare-snare-bass-bass type stuff).
Sorry this kind of turned into a rant, but that Paul guy pissed me off today and it just so happens I saw this thread.

hey ranting is healthy, lol. that sucks that he has to be an ass, but that also sucks that you have to do dirty work for him and you are underrated.
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EOTE_drummer wrote:
hey ranting is healthy, lol. that sucks that he has to be an ass, but that also sucks that you have to do dirty work for him and you are underrated.
Haha, Thanks. I don't mind him being an ass. I have too much fun with everything else and meeting/talking to others. He's just the bad side to an overall fun activity.
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Sorry, but I just have to laugh at all the guys in here whining about the overrated asshole drummer at their school, and how they were so much better than him, though no one knew it.
That one dude- "I had no technique and couldn't keep time, but I was better than the drumline's section leader because he messed up Wipeout."
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TheLoneGunman

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yeah, that line seems silly. Oh well, 10 years later, I'm still playing, he isn't, time proved who was the better drummer.
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Theres this one kid in my Highshcool who the music teacher loves he's in the jazz band the small combo and drumline.He's a good drummer but he is insanely overrated in my school to the point where the other musicians are saying he's not as good as we thought he was. But he's the only drummer the music teacher allows on the drumset for tunes. and he gets 2-3 solo's in Jazz band plus whatever he gets in combo.
Plus it's not even like its a good creative solo it's just this stupid triplet between the snare bass and toms, which he plays over and over again!
There are 2 other drummers in the jazz band I'm not one of them because the music teacher and I dont get along.(Our personalities dont mesh well I've told him to go fuck himself a couple times)But he doesnt give them any solos and they usually get the shitty songs like the ballads or the one jazz tune no one likes.
However when ever we have jam sessions in the drum room guitar and bass players always ask for me to play. Then they tell me that they dont understand why the music teacher doesnt let me play cause I'm better than this kid in their eyes.
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TheLoneGunman

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I love Cheese and drums wrote:Theres this one kid in my Highshcool who the music teacher loves he's in the jazz band the small combo and drumline.He's a good drummer but he is insanely overrated in my school to the point where the other musicians are saying he's not as good as we thought he was. But he's the only drummer the music teacher allows on the drumset for tunes. and he gets 2-3 solo's in Jazz band plus whatever he gets in combo.
Plus it's not even like its a good creative solo it's just this stupid triplet between the snare bass and toms, which he plays over and over again!
There are 2 other drummers in the jazz band I'm not one of them because the music teacher and I dont get along.(Our personalities dont mesh well I've told him to go fuck himself a couple times)But he doesnt give them any solos and they usually get the shitty songs like the ballads or the one jazz tune no one likes.
However when ever we have jam sessions in the drum room guitar and bass players always ask for me to play. Then they tell me that they dont understand why the music teacher doesnt let me play cause I'm better than this kid in their eyes.
Just as a point of interest. In the music biz you're going to have to deal with tons of people who you won't mesh well with. Telling them all off isn't going to make matters any better. I don't know what he did to deserve being told to f'off maybe he deserved it, but I do know that's usually how you don't get to play the drums or later on, how you won't get the job.
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I have one but in my middle school. I'll say he was good a few weeks ago before I started lessons but then after I learned to play songs he seemed worse and worse. He was playing the song Maps by the Yeah Yeah Yeahs and it was just the floor tom and snare and two base notes the entire intro beat he did. But I new the real way to play it that sounded helluva lot better (If I do say so myself) even my other friend said mine was better but he refused to agree. He said he could play Enter Sandman by Metallica but he just played some beat on the toms that sounded nothing like it. I've only been really playing for 3 weeks and I know entire songs. Due to my lack-of-a-ride-cymbal situation I can't finish learning songs I'd like to. He is still my friend but hes over hyped on the drums and kinda thinks he's a big shot because he has a girlfriend and he's on sports teams. He'll be pissed when I get my ride and finish learning Maps.
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kvltmonkey

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I was smart about it. Since I didn't play in band, jazz, ensemble, etc. the only people that knew I was a drummer in High school were my friends.
And most of them were musicians too, so we kept it a big hush hush secret.
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antiunderscores

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kvltmonkey wrote:I was smart about it. Since I didn't play in band, jazz, ensemble, etc. the only people that knew I was a drummer in High school were my friends.
And most of them were musicians too, so we kept it a big hush hush secret.
lol, thats an awesome idea! im going to do that now!
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sgtphilko

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Although I think I sucked back then, I was that guy. Starting in 9th grade I was the drum section leader and I was real cocky about it and pissed the juniors and seniors off. Looking back I wish I hadn't been so cocky...very bad form.
Some of my buddies were in bands and were really awesome...I learned a lot from them. The best thing is sitting down with someone you KNOW blows you away, and he acts like you both are teaching each other tricks (and you just are in awe).
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a7xjlee

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theres one at my school hes pretty nice but he isnt as good as everyone says he is hes solid but his not awesome like everyone else says , the one time i got caught playing by a group of people they were like o.0 i try not to do it becuase i want to get rearly good and bust out some crazy thomas lang solo for the school and ill be like hehe but ill let him have his fame he isnt to good at anything else so why not let him be the "best drummer"
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eml

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There's three drummers in my school as far as I know, me and two girls. I've seen one of the girls play, she takes lessons and all and has great technique. Sadly, as I've seen most people who takes lessons do, she doesn't improvise. I don't know why, but it seems like they have these predefined fills for each song, and they don't want to change them up at all.
Since I'm the only one in a band and the only one who's played any "harder stuff" I'm that guy, but I don't think I really should be. I try to be as humble as possible about it though, as I don't want to be a douche. I also try to help this third drummer with her drumming, I actually convinced her to start. I hate how people overrate other people though.
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jnewlon_drum

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im a senior now so ive already seen all of the high school drummer crap and been through it lol...i also hate it when kids try 2 show you up/try 2 show off and talk crap on u...its all childish lol...the way i look at it...who really cares whos the best drummer!! as long as theyr playing and enjoy it thats all that matters...
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fullmetaldrummer87

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When I was in high school, I was that guy, the high school drummer, but I wasn't overhyped. I could back it up. Come to think of it, I was the only guy in my school that really played drums..............
Well, there were all the kids on the drumline at my first high school, but they were so over rated. They all thought they were hot shit, but put them behind a kit, and they couldn't play to save their life.
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Mitchell?

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break the prism

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In my high school there were two drummers in the jazz band: Myself, Peter Munn, and the other, Peter Marseglia.
We were both really good, but he was more of the "refined" jazz drummer and I was the "rock" guy, even though I had as much background in jazz as him.
Anyway, he was the more technicaly proficient drummer, since he had been taking lessons since he was four. There was a lot of hype over him because he won |