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just thinking about buying a black label 20" paiste 2oo2 ride,

any advice about sound and style of music to play with?
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Anything. From Rock to Jazz and everything inbetween.








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is black label also a vintage version prior to the reds?







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yes, they are quite rare...








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what years do they span from?







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There are two types of Black Label 2oo2 Cymbals.

The original issue..... early 70s to about 1979/80. These had the black ink logo, and also the iron stamped 2oo2 logo in the cymbal itself.
The reissues from 2002. I think they only made these one year as a marketing hype kind of thing.








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THIS IS ALSO POSTED IN ANOTHER 2002 FORUM: I recall just several years ago that Paiste re-introduced 2002's with the old black logo. I think they did this for the entire 2002 line. They also re-introduced 2002's with a black label that were consistent with all of the sizes that John Bonham used and they were sold as a "pack" at a special (read:expensive) price. There is a good chance that you have one of these black logo re-issues. If not, then you indeed have the old one's; which, actually aren't that rare and don't sound any different than the red logo versions. Yet, another thing about the 602's - Paiste was releasing heavier versions of their 20%-80% 602 alloy up until the early 90's. Jeff Porcaro (sp?) used them drumming in Toto. Alex Van Halen also used Heavy 602's. Stewart Copeland used 602's before switching to Rude's. I have a pair of 14" Heavy 602 hi hats from around that period, as well as a Heavy 10" 602 Bell. I've seen 602 Sound-Edge hats, too. I have seen the entire 602 line released in "Heavy" versions. I guess people preferred their sound over the 2002's. True, 602's were originally manufactured for jazz musicians, and the Giant Beats came out as replacements for the heavier drummers (who consistently cracked the old 602's), but they didn't replace the 602 line. Nor did the 2002's replace them. John Bonham even played with a 20" or 22" 602 ride in addition to his 2002's in the early days.
ANYway......I love the blue logo 602's combined with the bright red logo of the 2002's. The 602's will NEVER be re-released, according to Paiste. There are enough similar characteristics to be found in both the Signature and the Traditional lines. And now, with the introduction of Paiste Twenty's, which use the same 20-80% alloy, the fate of the 602 line is sealed. Forever discontinued.







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That post doesn't answer your question, does it? You can use 2002's for just about anything, as already posted above. They're strong little suckers. I'm curious if anyone using 2002's has tried out the Giant Beats and if they like them or find them any different than their 2002's.








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i now have a Paiste 2oo2 20" black label ride and it sounds great but how do i now find out if it is vintage or a re-issue. it has a serial number but i just want to know if there are any other distinguishing features?
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