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tero

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 china question
i see a lot of drummers out there that have their china cymbal mounted up-side-down. why? is it just their own preference or is it better for the cymbal?(not stress it a lot)
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billywilly92

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Well if you put the china "bell side" up you can get different sounds from it like when you hit the bell. I think it would cause just as much stress no matter what way you put it. But I think its mainly preference.
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Scrogs

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Some people will say it will break hitting the cymbal bell side up. I never tried to prove this point or research it.
The bottom line for me is, I like the way it sounds hitting it bell side down with the shaft of the stick.
Its also another arguement to say which way is right side up or upside down, seeing how its usually a cymbal with
writing on both sides....most people refer to them as bell side up or down.
Just smack that thing mounted both ways, see which way you like it, then play it.
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b b253

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 Re: china question
tero wrote:i see a lot of drummers out there that have their china cymbal mounted up-side-down. why? is it just their own preference or is it better for the cymbal?(not stress it a lot)
i have my china mounted upside down it sounds better to me upside down then regular. and its just a lot easier for me to hit it.
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tero

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i think i will mount mine the same way. otherwise it will be a stick killer
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FATHER TIME

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If it's the other way, it's usually a jazz guy playing ride patterns on it.
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drumur

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Quote:If it's the other way, it's usually a jazz guy playing ride patterns on it.
ala Bernard Purdie.
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DRUMSMYWIFE

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it is way easier to get the china angled, bell up and it won't have any tilting problems.
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Mitchell?

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a7xjlee

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Mitchell? wrote:I can't my damn Wuhan upside down without it flopping around ridiculously so right now it's right side up. It was 15 bucks though so I don't really give a damn if I break it....
guess what i have the answer to your problem (first bit of good advice on the forum ive given) you can get these cymbal spring things that are made to stop the "flopping" i think they may stop keywholing to but yer ill link you to them  might be able to pick one up at your local music shop if not online.
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Aquarian-Cymbal-Spring?sku=449400
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christopherabruce

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 Re: china question
tero- It's mounted upside down to get that china crack sound by hitting the flat 1-inch or so edge. Hitting the thin edge right side up won't produce the same effect.
I usually mount my chinas right-side up, and strike the bow of the cymbal, with the stick's shaft, to achieve that crack. Not exactly the same effect, but it's what I prefer.
tero wrote:i see a lot of drummers out there that have their china cymbal mounted up-side-down. why? is it just their own preference or is it better for the cymbal?(not stress it a lot)
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xdoseonex

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its a good way to break a china.
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Alan_

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I've played with them both ways, and have broken one of the three I've owned. the other two I gave away (I used to have this nasty habit of giving away cymbals I would tire of).
basically, if you mount them upside down, there's less decay. also more breakage.
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Upside down, the edge becomes more like hitting a regular crash cymbal. There are chinasa which are made with an inverted bell, like the Paiste Novo China which allow you to ply the bell when the chine is upside down. The rule of thumb on this is if you are going to crash your china more, then inverted is probably the way to go. If you are going to ride it more, then bell up is the better option for you.
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metldrummer2112

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xdoseonex wrote:its a good way to break a china.
yes it is, if your hitting the flange. It'll kill your sticks and bend the edge, and ultimately it will break
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WZ

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I was in such euphory, when I received my cymbals including china, so I put my china upside down accidentally, and 5 minutes after playing I found a crack in my china
So better don`t try.
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PDP9000

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I dont think its stress it gives off a diffrent sound.
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DRUMSMYWIFE

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MasterShake89

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skitch wrote:Upside down, the edge becomes more like hitting a regular crash cymbal. There are chinasa which are made with an inverted bell, like the Paiste Novo China which allow you to ply the bell when the chine is upside down. The rule of thumb on this is if you are going to crash your china more, then inverted is probably the way to go. If you are going to ride it more, then bell up is the better option for you.
aggreed.
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