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i have the illiminator for my hi hat and for my kick. i love them both extremely.. the hi hit stand is very kick ass. and i just got the kick pedle.. but i want to know what other people have and what they think about all these..

let me know! Trent








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FUCKIN ELIMINATOR!!!!!!!!!!!!








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My preference is DW. The 9000 series is the best pedal I've ever used. You'll pay double what you pay for an eliminator or an Iron Cobra... but you get what you pay for in this situation.







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Actually, I think the DW 7000's are the most underrated pedals ever. that's what I play with...They're smooth, but they don't lag like cobras do. They have those super light DW beaters, obviously, but you still feel like you're playing a pedal, not just tapping your feet (like axis or the 9000's)








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I played on the Eliminator for years, but recently switched to the Iron Cobras. They're both great products though. The first double pedal I ever owned was a DW, and I loved that too. I think they're all great.








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I like both, but prefer DW 5000 strap drive. (chains are too slow)








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I was originaly going to get iron cobras for christmas(present to myself) but unfortunatly my local guitar center sold out, so one of the workers let me try out a few other double bass pedals in around the same price range. The best feeling pedals I tried out were the pearl power shifter Eliminators..and Wow, they were pretty damn smooth. I didn't hesitate to make the purchase, definatly one of the smartest buys i've made in awhile. I also like how you can change the cams, so far I've been using the blue and red cams with the footboard set all the way back, I'm still messing around with them. :]







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See for yourself.....



The kick is a Tama Iron Cobra Jr. And the Hi-hat stand, is a Tama HH905 Iron Cobra. ^_^ The hi-hat stand is brand-fucking-new. Christmas present. ^_<








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I used an Iron Cobra for years then I switched to DW 5000's.
The switch was like shifting to overdrive. The DW'S were smoother and gave me some leverage, therefore helping me play faster bass drum patterns.








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i play iron cobras. the dw 9000s are the most insanely fast and smooth chain pedals ive ever felt but they were out of my price range (my dad actually bought me my cobras and i knew he wouldnt put down for a set of 9000s). the problem i have with dws is getting double strokes out of them. to some people doubles might not be a problem but i use them all the time and i need a pedal that can deliver, and the iron cobras do that for me. the eliminators are also very nice pieces of equipment and if i feel the need to replace my cobras ill give them a serious look and substantial playing time.

all in all, the pedals are great, all of them. there are pros and cons to each one but im not at all disappointed with my cobras.









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The Cobras have the coolest name anyways...

....IRON COBRA........

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i been playing and iron cobra double pedal for about 2 years and the left one started to give resistance to the spring either im sending it in or selling it and getting two single kicks. i've been looking at the axis, can someone tell me what they think about them?








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im interested in the eliminator is there different versions?







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I have been playing drums for 10 years and I play hard, I love to beat the shit out of my drums. My frist double pedal was a pacific and it just did not do it for me, the feel was too light. Then I got a dw 5000 and it still was to light and about for years ago I went all pearl drums, hardwear and pedals and MAN WOW!!! the Eliminator double chain double pedal was the one. They are so fast and hit with so much force it just blew me away. If you want speed and power go with the Eliminator!








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They are not fast. You are fast.








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Shalaq wrote:
They are not fast. You are fast.


+1.

Shalaq is completely right. What pedal you play has nothing to do with how fast you are. It's you, not the pedal.








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ok iv checked the pearl website and there are 2 types of the Eliminator the Eliminator - P-2002C and the Eliminator - P-2002B.

Can anyone share light on the difference between these 2 pedals as the pearl website does'nt?







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screamkevin wrote:
Shalaq wrote:
They are not fast. You are fast.


+1.

Shalaq is completely right. What pedal you play has nothing to do with how fast you are. It's you, not the pedal.


I'll third that! I originally had the Tama HP10 and got the same speed out of it as I get out of the Tama HP200 Iron Cobra Jr. It all depends on how fast YOU are. Just the higher up ones, are not faster, they are better built. They will last longer through faster beating, where as the lower ones will get crappy and fall apart.








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OK here's another thing I've thought of:
"Good pedals won't make you faster. They just won't slow you down" Smile








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I highly reccommend the Vex pro touring double kick. Vex is a very promising new company with a bad a$$ pedal.

www.vexdrums.com







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Question for those who have owned or currently own an Eliminator: have you had problems with the screw that holds the pedal board to the heel plate breaking? This is the main reason I switched to Cobras, I've had to replace the right pedal board on my double pedal 3 times. Just wondering if anyone else had that problem.








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Nope, I have had mine for 4 years and its still going strong,nothing broke yet.








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Rockaflodge wrote:
Nope, I have had mine for 4 years and its still going strong,nothing broke yet.


Hmmm...thanks for answering the question; it bothers me though because now I'm worried if there's something wrong with my foot placement on the pedal board. Maybe I'm putting too much pressure on that side that keeps breaking on me. I'll have to play around and see.








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DaveDWdrums wrote:
I highly reccommend the Vex pro touring double kick. Vex is a very promising new company with a bad a$$ pedal.


I just followed your link to that pedal...

I can't help but to comment on what I saw, so bear with me!

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- All Metal Construction

What else would they make it out of? WOOD?

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- Double Chain Driven

Translation: we use two really cheap chains instead of one good one

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- Triple Spring Adjustability

Translation: Our linkage is so sloppy we need springs on both the slave pedal AND the footboard side

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- Fully Adjustable Power Cam System

Translation: Putting a flat spot to keep the cam from slipping on the main axle is expensive, so we didn't and we decided to call this problem a "feature", It's adjustable, but it needs to be because it's going to slip if you're a power player.

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- Frictionless Bearing Hinge

Translation: It has cheap ball bearings in the hinge

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- Double Locking Spring Tension Rod

Translation: We put a nut on there because the threads slipped, have fun adjusting this bad boy, you're going to need pliers or a wrench!

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- Quad Beaters

WOW, an actual feature! Not a great feature, but a feature just the same.

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- Double Cam Plates

Tanslation: It has a double chain, so the cam plates have to be double as well. Not really a feature, every double chain pedal has this

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- Weight Double Spine Pedal Plates

Translation: The pedal board is so flimsy, it needed to be beefed up.

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- Force Locking Bass Drum Clamp

Translation: You'll need a drum key to put this on your drum and have it stay

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- Beater Shaft Locks

Translation: The beaters kept fllying off so we added another screw... you'll need a drum key for this as well

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- Foot Stops

Translation: We include at no extra charge what most companies include at no extra charge

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- Drum Key / Allen Wrench Holder

Translation: You'll need tools with you at all times.

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- Authentic Etched Vex Logo

Accept no substitutes! They wouldn't THINK of including an IMITATION Etched Vex Logo!

This thing is a 99 dollar pedal, and it's about as good as most 99 dollar pedals. Save your money and buy something that will last a while.








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I agree with zen_drummer, this thing is a cheap piece of junk. Buy an Axis, Tama Iron Cobra, Yamaha Flying Dragon, Pearl Eliminator, or *drools* the new Trick Pedal. God, I wish I could afford that bad boy.








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or *drools* the new Trick Pedal. God, I wish I could afford that bad boy.


Save your pennies and dimes, Kevin, it's worth it!








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my favorite pedal would have to be the Trick Pro V-1. by far the sweetest double pedal ever! Compared to the Axis it still kicks ass. I agree that its no fun to just tap the pedal for that kind of speed and trying them out these things are no joke! they fly!







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my favorite pedal would have to be the Trick Pro V-1. by far the sweetest double pedal ever! Compared to the Axis it still kicks ass. I agree that its no fun to just tap the pedal for that kind of speed and trying them out these things are no joke! they fly!


Do you have one?








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Listen. Go try the pedal out yourself. I would prefer probably the eliminator or the DW. The eliminator is good because the iron cobra has 3 types, flexi, rolling, and power glide. The eliminator can switch into all of these and its cheaper. but cobras r still great. DWs in my opinion are easier to play then the iron cobra








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DW pedals all the way but Tama are also great.


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phoenix7289 wrote:
The Cobras have the coolest name anyways...

....IRON COBRA........

w0rd.


That's right! I'm am a happy Cobra user for many years now! Those chromed cobra's are the shit man!! Too bad they don't sell you that suitcase on it's own!








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Iron Cobra, chain drive, with the oblong cam, whatever its called. I used to have Power Shifters, but I didn't like the feel. Not enough power at the end of the stroke, and I tried adjusting several times before I just finally settled. I tried DW 5000 and Tama Iron Cobra and they both felt equally great (That's because they're the same pedal). Iron Cobra was cheaper than DW so I got it. I like the light feel with the power at the end of the stroke.







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none of them.. there all slow and sluggish... they have nothing on axis pedals.... nothing at all








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