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40th

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I agree that playing is ebb and flow, but until I get good enough, my commander asks that I stick to the script...it sucks to hear how much you suck in front of the group, but unitl I do get better...I have to listen to the commander.
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drumur

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This is what I do too (below). I swear by it and have talked about it in other posts. It was a reply to a Mike Johnston video.
I undertsand why you think that. He is just keeping time with his left foot. It's on the hi-hat pedal, and he is tapping his heel (still keeping pressure with his toes to prevent the hats from opening). He does it on his other videos as well.
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Thu May 08, 2008 12:12 pm |
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SGarrett

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I do that as well.
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Thu May 08, 2008 12:20 pm |
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40th

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Thu May 08, 2008 9:29 pm |
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rlrrll

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Try not to play fills when the singer is singing the melody. Try to place them in the spots of the song where the "melodic players" are not playing as many notes. Don't 'step on there toes ' -- not just yet anyway!
Also, try to think of your fills in terms of "setting up" the accents that are called for in the song. Don't just play a fill because you feel like it, play something that leads the band into the next accent or ensemble rhythm.
I teach my students to play "Big, Dumb and Obvious" fills that help the band land together on the accents. Once you have those down, you'll become easier for the other players to play with. You can add to those later. Start with fills that say "HERE IT COMES . . . BAM!!!!
Remember, the fill isn't the important part -- the accent in the song is!
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Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:16 pm |
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ChrisNichols

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Not totally sure what to recommend...I can sort of just sense when to start a fill.
But definitely start with simple ones, like the other guys said. That way it'll be easier to gain that sense of when to start.
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Wed Jun 11, 2008 11:26 am |
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Alan_

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I sometimes will keep time on the hi-hat. Not all the time, just some.
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Wed Jun 11, 2008 11:29 am |
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drummerkid101

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as said before, i just let the fills come to me...i flow with the music.
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Wed Jun 11, 2008 9:18 pm |
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Empyrean Drums

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That is too simplistic view of seeing it. First-Define Fill
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Wed Jun 11, 2008 10:02 pm |
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botcore69

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does anyone find they dont always do the same fills in songs? mine usually change all the time, to whatever im feelin at that point in time. is that a bad thing? ive always been big on improvisation as i think it keeps you and other people guessin
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Fri Jun 13, 2008 3:47 pm |
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Mitchell?

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botcore69 wrote:does anyone find they dont always do the same fills in songs? mine usually change all the time, to whatever im feelin at that point in time. is that a bad thing? ive always been big on improvisation as i think it keeps you and other people guessin
I improvise my fills a lot too, because I just go by what I feel.
Since every time my band plays a song, it's always a little bit different than last time, I just go with what I feel.
It works like 95% of time.
Yeah, for those longer fills I like to keep time on the hats because it gives it a nice Bonham-type flavor.
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Fri Jun 13, 2008 3:51 pm |
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botcore69

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"Yeah, for those longer fills I like to keep time on the hats because it gives it a nice Bonham-type flavor"
definately
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Fri Jun 13, 2008 3:53 pm |
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drumur

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Quote:"Yeah, for those longer fills I like to keep time on the hats because it gives it a nice Bonham-type flavor"
definately Very Happy
I do it all-the-time.
Even when I'm not opening and closing the Hi Hat.
I keep it closed and use my heel.
It locks you into the pocket and synchronizes with the rest of the limbs
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Fri Jun 13, 2008 9:45 pm |
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Mitchell?

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drumur wrote:Quote:"Yeah, for those longer fills I like to keep time on the hats because it gives it a nice Bonham-type flavor"
definately Very Happy
I do it all-the-time.
Even when I'm not opening and closing the Hi Hat.
I keep it closed and use my heel.
It locks you into the pocket and synchronizes with the rest of the limbs
I do that too. I'll be playing on the hats on some beat, and my left leg will be jumping along like it's somehow involved.
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