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blink44

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 need help QUICKLY PLEASE.
alright so ive finally gotten to tune my drums, went to drum bible everything was going great til....
one of the screws that you turn with that drum key thingy is stuck. its not on too tight and its loose so what do i do?
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Sat May 10, 2008 8:54 pm |
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DrumFiend0206

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WD-40, and then try and turn it back and forth in a kind of wiggling motion until it loosens. See if that helps.
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Sat May 10, 2008 9:06 pm |
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blink44

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i can like move it side to side but i cant tighten it or loosen it or take it off.
ive tried my hardest to make it move and i only moved it a bit.
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Sat May 10, 2008 9:12 pm |
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DrumFiend0206

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Like I said, try some WD-40. It's a lubricant, so it's obviously going to make it easier to turn. Instead of just coming back without trying it lol.
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Sat May 10, 2008 9:20 pm |
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SINISTER

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You have it in cock-eyed, probably stripped the lug nut.
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Sat May 10, 2008 9:26 pm |
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blink44

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how do you fix that? and how much will it cost to repair?
also i just got the set 2 weeks back.
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Sat May 10, 2008 9:27 pm |
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Homki890

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Well, the WD-40 could work. To me it sounds like the lug is hitting a dead spot in the casing, as in that the threads aren't matching exactly. Either trying to force it, which I would not recommend, or getting a new lug or casing seems to be the options. The parts couldn't be more than three bucks.
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Sat May 10, 2008 9:34 pm |
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SGarrett

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Pretty easy to fix. Take the batter head off, unscrew the lug, replace the offending insert, and reassemble.
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Sat May 10, 2008 9:40 pm |
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blink44

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My bad guys, i used to wrong words.
using this picture
the tension collar screw is stuck, by that i mean the screw can still move side to side but i cannot tighten it at all and i can only loosen it until a curtain point before it gets stuck.
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Sat May 10, 2008 10:12 pm |
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SGarrett

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Turn the tension until it snaps or dremel it off (better option), then read my other reply.
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Sat May 10, 2008 10:42 pm |
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blink44

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i cant turn it at all after i reach the point, and ive tried going back and forth and it doesnt move a bit.
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Sat May 10, 2008 10:44 pm |
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zen_drummer

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Follow SGarrett's instructions and your problem will be solved.
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Sat May 10, 2008 10:47 pm |
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SGarrett

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I realize that. That's why I said "turn it until it snaps". If you have a dremel or access to one, cut it in half. That way there's no chance of the torque damaging the shell of the drum.
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Sat May 10, 2008 10:48 pm |
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blink44

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so its like $5 to replace it right?
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Sat May 10, 2008 10:56 pm |
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blink44

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and it doesnt snap it just doesnt move any further even when i try my hardest it still doesnt move.
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Sat May 10, 2008 11:03 pm |
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stump

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Sounds to me like you have cross threaded the screw or the lug. If so then you may need to drill and tap it, which is a tricky process, or replace the lug and screw. Good luck! P.O.Y!
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Sat May 10, 2008 11:13 pm |
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blink44

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how much would it cost to replace the lug and screw?
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Sat May 10, 2008 11:28 pm |
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stump

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It depends on what kind of drum we are talking about. Brand, model, type? Then you have to look at who is going to do the work and part availability. May be a costly fix. P.O.Y!
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Sat May 10, 2008 11:37 pm |
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blink44

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Pearl Forum, its a snare drum if i didnt mention it before.
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Sat May 10, 2008 11:40 pm |
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stump

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Actaully parts for those are quite cheap. The lugs you can get for around $3.00 apiece on line. ? is are you going to do the work yourself? P.O.Y!
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Sat May 10, 2008 11:52 pm |
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blink44

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and also is it easy replacing them?
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Sun May 11, 2008 12:22 am |
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stump

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blink44 wrote:and also is it easy replacing them?
Just a couple of screws and nuts. Not hard at all. P.O.Y!
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Sun May 11, 2008 12:26 am |
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40th

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cut it in half. Then replace.
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Sun May 11, 2008 12:32 am |
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sjoey1r

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SGarret is right.
and yeah you've stripped the nut.
How many times have you been tightening/loosening them, for it to strip in under 2 weeks?
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Sun May 11, 2008 3:10 am |
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SINISTER

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Here are step by step instructions my friend:
1. Take off all other Tension rods
2. Cut the one that is stuck with a dremel, hack saw, grinder, etc
3. Remove top head and rim
4. Remove the troublesome lug via 2 screws on the inside of the drum shell
5. Remove actual LUG NUT(which will have the broken tension rod inside)
6. Get a new LUG NUT and TENSION ROD at guitar center, music shop, hardware store, etc and reassemble.
If done correctly it should only take you about 20 minutes tops
You're lookin at about $10 absolute max for this project as most shops don't sell single tension rods or lug nuts. However you will have extras for future use
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Sun May 11, 2008 8:31 am |
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blink44

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the wierd thing is that i havent played around with the screws that much, i just tightened it 1-3 times and this time it got fucked.
and im not like forcing it in or anything, i just rotate it normally and it fucks up.
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Sun May 11, 2008 10:16 am |
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Rob Crisp

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You need to very carefully cut the tension screw. If you don't have a dremel or something similar, you'll need to use a hacksaw and go VERY SLOWLY! Don't wanna scratch the drum now do ya
Infact I'd remove the batter head, top hoop and the lug, if you have to go via the snare side to unscrew the lug from the shell/ THEN cut it when the drum is not going to get damaged.
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Mon May 12, 2008 7:19 am |
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xdoseonex

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blink44 wrote:i can like move it side to side but i cant tighten it or loosen it or take it off.
ive tried my hardest to make it move and i only moved it a bit.
sounds like you might have stripped
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Mon May 12, 2008 7:57 am |
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whiskeydick

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