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GabeC
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 Review my Cart before i buy!!(buying heads,cymbals,stands)
Okay first off, I pretty much only play Rock Music.
Here's what i have in my cart and am preparing to buy soon.
Pacific Drums by DW P/D 800 Straight Cymbal Stand
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Pacific-Drums-by-DW-PD-800-Straight-Cymbal-Stand?sku=443552
Aquarian Classic Clear Drumhead Clear 12 Inches
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Aquarian-Classic-Clear-Drumhead?sku=449302
Aquarian Classic Clear Drumhead Clear 16 Inches
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Aquarian-Classic-Clear-Drumhead?sku=449302
Aquarian Classic Clear Drumhead Clear 13 Inches
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Aquarian-Classic-Clear-Drumhead?sku=449302
Aquarian Response 2 Drumhead 13 Inches
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Aquarian-Response-2-Drumhead?sku=449328
Aquarian Response 2 Drumhead 12 Inches
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Aquarian-Response-2-Drumhead?sku=449328
Aquarian Response 2 Drumhead 16 Inches
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Aquarian-Response-2-Drumhead?sku=449328
Aquarian Classic Clear Snare Bottom Drumhead 14'
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Aquarian-Classic-Clear-Snare-Bottom-Drumhead?sku=449304
Aquarian Hi-Energy Drumhead 14 Inches
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Aquarian-HiEnergy-Drumhead?sku=449310
Aquarian Force Series Bass Drum Head Pack Black 22 Inch
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Aquarian-Force-Series-Bass-Drum-Head-Pak?sku=449357
Pulse Pro Cymbal Boom Arm with Clamp
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Pulse-Pro-Cymbal-Boom-Arm-with-Clamp?sku=444642
Zildjian ZBT 4 Rock Cymbal Pack With Free 18" Rock Crash
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Zildjian-ZBT-4-Rock-Cymbal-Pack-With-Free-18-Rock-Crash?sku=490021
Now, those are all heads for my drums. It's a Ludwig 5pc Accent Combo. I have a cymbals stand, i plan on taking off the 13" hi hats and the 18" crash ride i have now, and using the 14" hi hats on my current stand, and then use the new 16" rock crash, new 20" crash ride and the new 18" rock crash, one on my old stand then the other 2 on the 2 new stands mentioned above.
Does this sound like it would work well with the style of music i play? I got those heads off the Aquarian website that was linked to from one of the stickies on this forum. If anyone knows of better heads/cymbals that would suit a rock/alternative/metal style of play please let me know or point in me in the right direction.
thanks
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Thu May 15, 2008 10:05 pm |
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PatternsInTheIvy
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Instead of buying that cymbal pack, buy one or two nice cymbals. Maybe a 14" A custom crash and a Sweet ride
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Fri May 16, 2008 1:39 am |
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BillRayDrums
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Yeah and you can get pre-packs of Aquarian heads also. Look for those kinds of things because they are far less expensive when purchased as such, rather than individual unit. Even if you end up with some oddball head or size-specific thingamabob still, you get a better deal.
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Fri May 16, 2008 2:00 am |
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SGarrett
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I'd also get a Hi-Performance snare side head. The coating on the bottom side not only protects the head during heavy playing, it also dries it out just a little bit.
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Multibomber
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PatternsInTheIvy wrote:Instead of buying that cymbal pack, buy one or two nice cymbals. Maybe a 14" A custom crash and a Sweet ride
+1
Cheap cymbals are just disappointing. I have a Sabian Evolution 17" Effeks Crash and I think its the perfect rock crash. Its loud, a little dirty, but crystal clear. Point is, you can make any crappy drums sound good with proper heads and tuning but you cant tune a cymbal.
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Fri May 16, 2008 10:06 am |
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Alan_
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if you have a drum shop close to you, see if they have any used cymbals. a good used cymbal for cheap is 80,000 times better than a new crappy one.
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Fri May 16, 2008 10:31 am |
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PatternsInTheIvy
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Indeed, I got a Zildjian K ride with no line logo on it that sounded extremely killer for only 130 bucks from my local music store 
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Fri May 16, 2008 10:43 am |
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J-rod
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nice /\
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Fri May 16, 2008 11:59 am |
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k0staZ
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You can buy some Paistes PST5 instead of ZBT's or buy some Saludas...
I like your other choices =]
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Fri May 16, 2008 1:51 pm |
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GabeC
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so the ZBT's are crappy?
i'm just kinda wow'd at how expensive these cymbals can get.
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Fri May 16, 2008 3:34 pm |
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kansasdrummer
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i would go for ZXTs if u are goin to stick with zildjians. i use to use them as my main cymbals. they are pretty decent. unless u got the money..go with A Customs! Ive also heard PST5's on videos on youtube and such..they sounded pretty dang good on video..maybe worth a shot.
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Fri May 16, 2008 9:51 pm |
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k0staZ
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ZBT's are not crappy but the PST5 i think are better....I like zbt hi hats btw..
Hope find what do you want:P
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Fri May 16, 2008 11:24 pm |
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GabeC
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what about the ZHT's?
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Sat May 17, 2008 5:48 pm |
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bodiesablaze805
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get evans, not aquarian
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Sat May 17, 2008 6:40 pm |
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BillRayDrums
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bodiesablaze805 wrote:get evans, not aquarian
And what's wrong with Aquarian?
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Sat May 17, 2008 7:09 pm |
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bodiesablaze805
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every aquarian head that i have EVER played hasnt been very good, couldnt get the sound i wanted out of them and they didnt last very long.
but thats just my opinion, im just saying he should try evans, they make a great sounding quality product
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Sat May 17, 2008 7:15 pm |
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b b253
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GabeC wrote:what about the ZHT's?
id get zhts or pst 5s or b8 pros. and dont get the pulse arm ull be sorry.
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Sat May 17, 2008 7:25 pm |
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Mitchell?
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b b253 wrote:GabeC wrote:what about the ZHT's?
id get zhts or pst 5s or b8 pros. and dont get the pulse arm ull be sorry.
I agree, check out this arm.
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Gibraltar-Grabber-Cymbal-Arm?sku=446265
I've been happy with every piece of Gibraltar equipment I've bought.
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Sat May 17, 2008 7:28 pm |
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GabeC
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bodiesablaze805 wrote:every aquarian head that i have EVER played hasnt been very good, couldnt get the sound i wanted out of them and they didnt last very long.
but thats just my opinion, im just saying he should try evans, they make a great sounding quality product
can u recommend me a full set from evans that would suit my play type?(rock)
14" snare
22" bass
12,13,16" toms
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Sat May 17, 2008 7:29 pm |
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bodiesablaze805
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GabeC wrote:bodiesablaze805 wrote:every aquarian head that i have EVER played hasnt been very good, couldnt get the sound i wanted out of them and they didnt last very long.
but thats just my opinion, im just saying he should try evans, they make a great sounding quality product
can u recommend me a full set from evans that would suit my play type?(rock)
14" snare
22" bass
12,13,16" toms
yeah man!
22" Evans Emad Clear Batter for the bass
Evans G2 Coated for the 12, 13 and 16
and the Evans Genera HD Dry for the 14" snare
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Sat May 17, 2008 7:32 pm |
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b b253
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Mitchell? wrote:b b253 wrote:GabeC wrote:what about the ZHT's?
id get zhts or pst 5s or b8 pros. and dont get the pulse arm ull be sorry.
I agree, check out this arm.
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Gibraltar-Grabber-Cymbal-Arm?sku=446265
I've been happy with every piece of Gibraltar equipment I've bought.
ya pulse just isnt very goo hardware makers. and here, id get these http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Evans-EC2-Coated-121316-Standard-Drum-Head-Pack-?sku=443189
then remo coated emperor snare and a superkick 2 bass drumhead .
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Sat May 17, 2008 7:34 pm |
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Mitchell?
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G2/EC2 Clear - tom batter
G1 Clear - tom reso
EC Reverse Dot Coated - Snare batter
Hazy 300 - snare reso
EMAD - bass batter
EMAD reso - bass reso
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Sat May 17, 2008 7:35 pm |
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GabeC
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so should i not replace the resonant heads? just the batter's?
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Sat May 17, 2008 7:35 pm |
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bodiesablaze805
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no way dude, the HD dry is wayyyyy better than the Emperor head and the Emad is better than the super kick
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Sat May 17, 2008 7:36 pm |
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b b253
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GabeC wrote:so should i not replace the resonant heads? just the batter's?
how old ur resos
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Sat May 17, 2008 7:36 pm |
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Mitchell?
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bodiesablaze805 wrote:no way dude, the HD dry is wayyyyy better than the Emperor head and the Emad is better than the super kick
HD Dry's are pretty nice, thats what I'm using right now. Yeah GabeC, I'd go with an HD Dry or EC Reverse Dot.
EMAD's and SKII's are about equal in my book, but if you wanted Evans all across the board, just go with the EMAD, it's as good if not better than the Superkick.
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Sat May 17, 2008 7:39 pm |
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bodiesablaze805
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for sure, i like the super kick, but was more impressed with the emad, i dont really like the emad 2 i guess LOL
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Sat May 17, 2008 7:42 pm |
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GabeC
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this sucks trying to search for all these different heads, is there place that sells them in one big pack or something?
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Sat May 17, 2008 7:43 pm |
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Mitchell?
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Sat May 17, 2008 7:44 pm |
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b b253
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bodiesablaze805 wrote:no way dude, the HD dry is wayyyyy better than the Emperor head and the Emad is better than the super kick
i havnt used any of those except the remo emperor snare and i was pleased with it but im not sure on which heads are better. what i stated is just what i would get.
and gabe musiciansfriend.com
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Sat May 17, 2008 7:45 pm |
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bodiesablaze805
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i know, im just trying to help everyone to make their drums sound better than they thought they could LOL
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Sat May 17, 2008 7:47 pm |
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GabeC
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found all the above mentioned Evans heads for about $245, the Aquarians were $189
that sound about right?
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Sat May 17, 2008 7:56 pm |
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bodiesablaze805
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probably,
its really worth it to pay the extra for the evans, they will sound better and last longer than the aquarians
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Sat May 17, 2008 7:58 pm |
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Ya want some bang for your buck? Check this out...
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Evans-EMAD-5Piece-Drumhead-Pack?sku=443809
Then get these in 12,13 and 16:
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Evans-Genera-Glass-Resonant-Tom-Heads?sku=440254
And add a snare bottom...
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Evans-Hazy-200-Snare-Side-Drumhead?sku=440278
You'll get Top and bottom toms, an EMAD kick batter, an HD Dry snare head and a hazy bottom, all for $165.93 including shipping!
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Sat May 17, 2008 8:54 pm |
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good research zen!
that is really the way to go!
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On the cymbals again... i cant recommend the ZBTs i got a ZBT ride given to me and i cant wait to get rid of it, cause i like all my other cymbals but i just find it aweful. Thats my opinon, and because they are made totally different to the traditional A's and Z's i imagine the crashes would perform poorly, i know i cant bare to crash on my ride. So, like others said, grab some second hand good cymbals, even if u cant get all of them they are far better. So either go to a store that sells second hand cymbals and if u really dont like anything there u can always become an eBay whore like me...
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