Haha de-fensive or what? Watch those opinion RANKband.com, you're entitled to them, but people don't like them! A Customs rock, a nice fat crash sound without being too harsh. My Zildjians of choice without a doubt, though I'm migrating to HHX now

Sorry, but I don't like Z's at all. I used to, I've owned 2 19" rock crashes in the past, but they break. Everyone I know who has ever owned them breaks them really fast, and it's not technique at all, it's because they have no volume except super-loud and so you have to play them 'wrong' in order to make them sound 'right'. There's nothing wrong with my technique, I'm precious about my cymbals because I can't afford to keep replacing them, hence why I stopped using the 19" Z rock crash. The 'shit sound' was a flippant jokey remark, I think some people need to chill out about their cymbals ffs.

And honestly, I'm not a fan of being patronised, so please dont do that








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Comparing Z's to camber or zbt's is not even a valid argument. I'm not here to argue. If you want to play other cymbals then enjoy...I don't knock drummers choices of brass. The folks listening to what you play will know. I play A's and A customs also (as you can see in my pics and hear in my vids) and love them but I dont compare professional level cymbals to entry level cymbals. Come on!! P.O.Y!








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I think the only thing that matters is whether or not you like them or not. And just because something is labeled as 'professional' doesn't necessarily dictate 'good'.

That's all opinion, yes, but don't gripe about everyone having an opinion then knock someone elses








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I think this thread has gotten off track. And if someone feels as if I was knocking their opinion then I appoligize that was not my intent. I was refering to myself. P.O.Y!








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Likewise, just because something is labeled "shit" by someone who (for what ever reason) had a bad experience with them does not necessarily dictate poor quality

Read posts. Flippant jokey comment, if I really thought they sounded shit I wouldn't have bought them in the first place.

Chin up lads.








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They are badass cymbals but they can cut thorugh a little to much i use
Z and a customs. They sound great for live but for recording you may want to
chose a diffrent series.

i ahve had about every size of Z customs and have broke every crash, terrible cymbals, they are too thick








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bodiesablaze805 wrote:

i ahve had about every size of Z customs and have broke every crash, terrible cymbals, they are too thick

are you sure its not your hitting cause i havnt cracked any z custom crash and i have had em for a few years.

im sure, ever since i got my meinls i have been good to go,

my z's use to bread toward the edge or around the bell, and alot of my friends have had the same problem








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I am not fond of them. I play gigs that require me to own cymbals that have a good dynamic range, and Z cymbals are pretty much loud and only loud.








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yep, the only sound good if you hit them hard haha








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whats the exact difference between a's and z's.








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b b253 wrote:

whats the exact difference between a's and z's.

The z customs give a cutting through loud raw nosie and the A customs are bright sounding.

I dont like their crashes as they dont seem to have much character or tone, but i love their rides. I have a 20" power ride and it does exactly what i want, it pings through the rest of my kit