i have been playing for about 4 years and for about a month ive been trying to do the heel toe technique and i just cant get the hang of it so any tips on how to do this (videos are appreciated).
Mon Jun 30, 2008 5:05 pm
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No it isn't easy, as I can't even play double bass with the hi-hats closed. All the help I can give is just put the pedal and hi-hat pedal really close together.
Oops I was thinking that heel-toe was between the hi-hat and second bass pedal!
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Mon Jun 30, 2008 5:12 pm
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just keep working at it. It took me a couple months to get the technique down and a couple more months to get speed. Now I use it all the time though escpecially for accents!
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Mon Jun 30, 2008 7:24 pm
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Here's a Derrick Pope video, the Heel-Toe stuff is at the end though.
Tue Jul 01, 2008 12:35 pm
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heel/toe is impossible for me. my feet are too large, and I like to play with my foot halfway off the footboard. I have been working on constant release, and so far so good. it's working great for double kick.
I started learning this today, I've got the technique down but I can't get the volume. I can do pretty fast double taps using just my ankle and it's nice and loud, so I need to try and get the volume up with heel toe.
I think it's a misleading name though, cos unles you have longboards you don't actually use your heel...
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Tue Jul 01, 2008 4:16 pm
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My feet are too big for normal length boards. I don't know why people do it though. I've never seen anyone play each stroke efficiently.
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Tue Jul 01, 2008 6:20 pm
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I dont have longboards and I use the heel everytime I use heel toe
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Tue Jul 01, 2008 8:05 pm
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i really can't play the heal-toe. my size is 12.5.
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Tue Jul 01, 2008 11:34 pm
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I love Cheese and drums wrote:
I dont have longboards and I use the heel everytime I use heel toe
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Wed Jul 02, 2008 6:26 am
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This is a learned and developed technique that I think just happens based on the needs of the player. If you are not playing a style regularly that demands the technique it will not be as easy to devolp...heel toe is a speed and power tool. It also depends on what your application is, single/double bass?
Some players to look at that are supreme heel toe masters for single bass are Nicko McBrain ( Iron Maiden) and John Bonham ( Led Zepplin).
I think the most important thing is having an intimate knowledge and relationship with what your pedal mechanics are capable of as to your own physical ability and development for speed ,power ,and delivery.
It's an uncanny technique that requires finding that sweet spot on the foot board ,and learning how to use the rebound of the spring and head action against the ball of your foot for increased inertia and control.
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I think the poll is missing the choice of yes AND no. I stumbled on the Heel Toe method almost 20 years ago, simply by accident while I was practicing with my band. Thinking that I just had a super fast right foot, I never developed the technique on the other side. Now after learning that it is actually a method of playing, trying to make my left foot want to do it has taken me quite a bit more time to master. The fact that the slave of the eliminator pedal is so slow has been frustrating at times. What I can't seem to get is the constant release at slower speeds using the heel toe.
Mon Jul 07, 2008 8:09 pm
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i play heel up and it works well for me. always wanted to try heel-toe but i can't cause my boards are short and my soft spot is midway across the board.
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