I'm thinking of getting a crash/ride cymbal. Will such a cymbal deliver a crisp ride sound equal to that of a pure ride cymbal? Can one use it as a crash without busting a stick? I want to clean up the arrangement of my kit and I figured it would help to get cymbals which can do more than one thing. Thanks!

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Although a crash/ride is the most commonly thought of "hybrid" cymbal, you don't have to purchase one to multi-task. Check out the cymbals that you've got first. How do your crashes sound when you ride on them with the tip of the stick? How do your ride(s) sound when you crash them? (Remember, the seemingly popular trend among pop/punk drummers today is to use rides as crashes.) If you can save a few bucks by simply multi-tasking on the instruments you have, it's worth it.

That said, a crash/ride can be a decent investment if you take the time to find a good one. Find one that suits your needs, both personally and musically. The average crash/ride will not sound as good as either a pure crash or a pure ride, but will function adequately as either. If you play them smartly and use proper technique, you won't break sticks on them any more than you would any other cymbal.

Hope this helps.








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thanks! that does help a lot.

Loads of rides have a great crash sound and loads of crashes have a great ride sound. Don't look only for crash/rides. When you go to a store check crash and ride sound of every cymbal. I have two 17 inch crashes, a 20 inch ride and a 22 inch ride and I use all of them as crashes and rides. This way I have four rides and four crashes and every sound is usefull. I have a crash sound from really trashy(almost like a china) to really pure bright and cutting, with a washy and aggressive powerfull one in between. Same with the ride sound- from a bright and pingy to really sizzly and washy to really earthy.








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i just got a paiste pst 3 crash/ride and i love it, it has very light ride qualities, and a very explosive crash quality. the bell on it does have that true ping sound to it. and it sounds great with brushes.

i like crash/rides alot!

I have a 20inch A custom projection ride that I use as a crash some times and it sounds great for riding and crashing.








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i have the Sabian B8 crash/ride and i love the sound of it and i always use it for a crash than a ride. i dont ride it as much but i there when i need it the most. it sound great for riding and crashing

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I think the crash/rides tend to be better for jazz then just the rides, main reason being that that was the type of cymbal originaly used and the sort of sound sticks in my head as the jazz ride sound.








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I have an 18" Zildjian Planet Z Crash Ride and it has an awesome explosive sound! PERFECT!!!








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In my current setup, I use 2 rides and 2 chinas
A-Zildjian medium ride (low crash)
A Custom ride (high crash)
Both balance each other very well and respond to a wide range of applications
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would a Zildjian A Custom ping ride work?
I'm looking to invest in one, but I'm looking for a good crash/ride hybrid








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Reaper33X wrote:

would a Zildjian A Custom ping ride work?
I'm looking to invest in one, but I'm looking for a good crash/ride hybrid

A ping ride... would not work. I have hit them, and they don't give the sound a real crash/ride will give you.








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so which Zildjian cymbal do you think would work best as a crash/ride?








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Reaper33X wrote:

so which Zildjian cymbal do you think would work best as a crash/ride?

One that says Crash Ride on it lol
Mine is a Planet Z though, and those are discontinued =/
You should be able to find them on ebay, they usually come with Tama Swingstars.... depending on if the person got them. But yah, just search for Zildjian Crash Rides.








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Generally every ride cymbal from medium-heavy to paper-thin weight can make a beautiful crash sound. I suggest go and look for medium rides at first, then slowly go to thinner cymbals.








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Shalaq wrote:

Generally every ride cymbal from medium-heavy to paper-thin weight can make a beautiful crash sound. I suggest go and look for medium rides at first, then slowly go to thinner cymbals.

i Agree, just try normal rides rides

i suggest the Avedis 21" Sweet ride, its medium weight, and has a brillient ping as well as a beautiful crash sound.
All rides are basically crash/rides, a medium ride used as a crash would give a similar sound to a medium/Heavy - Heavy Crash i find.








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I played a low volume gig last night and used my 19" K dark med-thin crash as my only cymbal and it worked great. I did lots of riding on it and I managed to get really good definition. The cool thing is that it sounded like a totally different cymbal when I crashed it.

Shalaq wrote:

Generally every ride cymbal from medium-heavy to paper-thin weight can make a beautiful crash sound. I suggest go and look for medium rides at first, then slowly go to thinner cymbals.

I guess it really depends....
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That's why I said "generally". I've got an extra heavy 22 inch ride and it has a great crash sound(to my ears). But generally the thinner ones open more quickly, so they have a better chance to sound good as a crash.








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Shalaq wrote:

That's why I said "generally". I've got an extra heavy 22 inch ride and it has a great crash sound(to my ears). But generally the thinner ones open more quickly, so they have a better chance to sound good as a crash.

Yah I know what you mean... the heavier, I would say USUALLY, is more gongy if hit correctly. I have a Sabian B8 20" Ride... very nice ride, and it can make a good ride, and a good gong sound. Not so much a crash, maybe a little bit of a crash ride.... but not as good as my actual cymbal that was made to be a crash ride.








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