so if i want to become a teacher or sessions drummer i would want to go to collage to study a little

but just drumming

caus ei know i wanna do something with drumming but not all the math and school shit
im not bad at it im just sick of it caus ei dont wanna use it..but i know i will

so is there any colleges with a drum set major that will help e in,
teaching
sessions
maybe owning a drum store
or in a band(ha highly unlikely wed make it but ide be fun)

ide do gigs on the side no doubt but folike a job

and with good money








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any school with a music department could give you that opportunity, but you'll have to audition. usually they make you demonstrate rudimentary knowledge on snare drum, breadth (playing other percussion instruments, usually some type of mallet), and on drumset the requirements are usually a demonstration of a few different styles (mostlikely jazz, latin, funk, and/or rock)








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seandude wrote:

so if i want to become a teacher or sessions drummer i would want to go to collage to study a little

but just drumming

caus ei know i wanna do something with drumming but not all the math and school shit
im not bad at it im just sick of it caus ei dont wanna use it..but i know i will

so is there any colleges with a drum set major that will help e in,
teaching
sessions
maybe owning a drum store
or in a band(ha highly unlikely wed make it but ide be fun)

ide do gigs on the side no doubt but folike a job

and with good money

There is no "fast track" to becoming a session drummer or teacher. Sure you can go to school, earn a degree in music, but you cannot possibly expect someone to come up and hand you a job playing for the next big act upon graduation. You really have to be a hustler, as in going out and getting your own work.

What school does for you, besides giving you marginal knowledge, is provide a solid platform for networking amongst your peers. EVERYTHING in this business is word-of-mouth. It's all "who you know" and then the "what you know" kicks in from there.

If you want to become a session drummer then I suggest you get out and start playing gigs with whatever band you can. If there's a Polka band looking for a drummer, go do Polka music. One thing leads to another and the bassist in the Polka band might have a funk gig that needs a drummer.

Learn as many styles as you can, learn to play with a click and feel comfortable at any tempo. Having killer chops will NOT get you hired. No one cares if your Moeller strokes or Paradiddles are perfect....what they care about is "does he/she groove"? And best yet "can this person be cool, diplomatic, take direction without getting an attitude"?

There are no guarantees. Money is always going to be your #1 challenge if you rely solely upon drumming as a career so I recommend learning early on how to manage yourself. Take some business courses. You have to run yourself like a business. Many folks think just because you have a job that is creative, you are willing to "have fun" and come play their party for free. Tell you what- call a plumber and ask if they will come unclog your shit for free.

Seriously- this is an extremely hard business to survive in. It's very gratifying but take it from me- you get rather salty over time (and they call it "seasoning" LOL) and you end up being an asshole, just like me.

Good luck








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If you're serious about studying music, (realize its the whole package-theory, arranging and composition, aural training/sight singing ect) then look into a school that offers a Jazz Studies major.....like UNC in Colorado. I may be biased, but the past two years the UNC Lab 1 Big Band has won DownBeat magazine's Best Collegiate Big Band award, and we aren't stopping there! Just a few weeks ago, we hosted the UNC Jazz Festival, and I got to chill with cats like Jeff Hamilton (from the Woody Herman orchestra), Snooky Young (one of Count Basie's original trumpeters, who also played with the likes of Thad Jones and Mel Lewis, and countless others), and many more. The drum set professor here is Jim White, one of Maynard Ferguson's studio and tour drummers in the late of his career...Ed Soph was here earlier this year....in short, its a great school, especially for drumming....but what you need to understand, and what a lot of perspective music majors don't realize is that its much more than just playing. Its hours and hours of practicing, theory classes, the whole bit. If you can do that, its a great opportunity, and one of the quickest ways to master your instrument. Cheers!








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Go to school and study all of the stuff that you love and don't love. Not trying to be a thorn in the side but who's to say that you are going to be able to do what you aspire to do with out an education. Owning a music store and teaching means that you need to know how to run a business (finances, inventory and personel) as well as how to deal with students. Being a good drummer does not qualify you to do this. Do yourself a favor and get the education to go along with the drumming life, the stuff you don't like will be over before you know it. Good luck!








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Most of the place you go have jazz drum set majors and classical percussion majors. I am a classical percussion major at CCM at the University of Cincinnati, but I am also a set player for a band that plays out every weekend. The best way for you to get a job, is to be able to do all things well. I currently take classical percussion lessons with my teachers, along with drum set lessons. I think that becoming at better orchestral percussionist has also enhanced my drum set playing. If you go to school, chances are you will get your name out more so than you would if you just played gigs. The place where batteriesnare went or goes sounds like an awesome school. If you live close to that school, check it out. The better the school you go to, again, the easier it is for your name to get out. The teacher I study with right now, knows the head honcho at Sabian and has been offered numerous times for endorsements and a personal cymbal line. If you want to teach and play, the best thing is to learn from people who have been there longer and have a lot of experience.








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There is this little school in Boston....called Berklee...some of you may have heard of it...considering it is one of the best music schools in the world.

Drummer93 wrote:

There is this little school in Boston....called Berklee...some of you may have heard of it...considering it is one of the best music schools in the world.

Again, Berklee is a great platform to learn different styles, develop relationships amongst your peers.

However I've known countless graduates who expect that a job is awaiting them when they get their degree.

They make some of the finest Real-Estate salespeople I've ever seen.

If YOU don't get out and do the networking, pounding the pavement, making connections, etc...as well as learning and becoming proficient in as many styles as you can or an expert in one style then well....House sales are in full swing!

Sorry to be harsh. It's just the reality, and among some of the people I know, I'm being nice about it.








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what if i wanna teach drums ....whats the money in that

cause now i feel crappy cause i wanted drums to be my job








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seandude wrote:

what if i wanna teach drums ....whats the money in that

cause now i feel crappy cause i wanted drums to be my job

Teaching drums is a great thing to do- Depending upon your skill level you can expect to charge between $75/$120 per student per month (that's 4 half-hour lessons) and that figure also depends on your geography.

Hey man I didn't mean to make you feel bad. I just wanted to inject some reality into the picture. I've been a full-time musician sans any other kind of job since 1988. Close to 20 years. And it's a brutal way to go. Then again, if you compare the risks to being self-employed and owning your own company, it's kind of the same thing.

If you truly love playing drums, then you will find a way to make it work for you. Just don't expect any kind of long-term security unless you get a situation that blows up big and you make a bazillion dollars.

I once taught this kid who was in a panic- his band had been signed to a major label and they were recording their first album. He came to me and had to learn to play with a click track, and FAST. The producer was about to replace him! I showed him a few things to make it easier, and he went on to record "Tragic Kingdom". His name was Adrian Young. Now he's pretty much set for life, and I'm still slugging it out in the trenches with various bands.

Good luck








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Drummer93 wrote:

There is this little school in Boston....called Berklee...some of you may have heard of it...considering it is one of the best music schools in the world.

yes, the school is one of the best, which also makes it one of the hardest to get into. start small and move your way up. go to a smaller school, learn a bunch of stuff from a less-known school, once you graduate, then go to berklee.if you are close, audition there, but dont expect making it.








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B-RAD52 wrote:

Drummer93 wrote:

There is this little school in Boston....called Berklee...some of you may have heard of it...considering it is one of the best music schools in the world.

yes, the school is one of the best, which also makes it one of the hardest to get into. start small and move your way up. go to a smaller school, learn a bunch of stuff from a less-known school, once you graduate, then go to berklee.if you are close, audition there, but dont expect making it.

You know, what you need to learn to make it in this business is right in your community college down the street. Take some basic business courses, some music theory, a performance lab, and most of all GET OUT AND PLAY GIGS. Like I said, go work with a polka band- if they (and you) are working and getting paid, then you are entitled to say you are a "professional musician". One gig leads to another and then you find another vein of working relationships.

The main thing is to get out and play.








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BillRayDrums wrote:

B-RAD52 wrote:

Drummer93 wrote:

There is this little school in Boston....called Berklee...some of you may have heard of it...considering it is one of the best music schools in the world.

yes, the school is one of the best, which also makes it one of the hardest to get into. start small and move your way up. go to a smaller school, learn a bunch of stuff from a less-known school, once you graduate, then go to berklee.if you are close, audition there, but dont expect making it.

You know, what you need to learn to make it in this business is right in your community college down the street. Take some basic business courses, some music theory, a performance lab, and most of all GET OUT AND PLAY GIGS. Like I said, go work with a polka band- if they (and you) are working and getting paid, then you are entitled to say you are a "professional musician". One gig leads to another and then you find another vein of working relationships.

The main thing is to get out and play.

I agree with with you. I think the absolute best thing, would be to go to college for music, and find a band there that will play out so that you can get the professional experience and the educational experience. Both will go hand in hand with each other, and make the other part better. This is what I do. I am incredibly lucky to be where I am right now. I go to a great school for doing what I love, and get paid on the weekends to do it too!








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