I'm looking to buy a module to trigger my bass drum at practice. I'm looking for a decapitated\lamb of god type sound.
any reccomendations








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what kind of PA are you using at practice?
What is your budget?








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Alesis DM-5. Pretty much the standard in metal drumming. They go for about $350. You can find them on ebay for around $250.

It's what I use. I also have a ddrum4 module and prefer the DM-5








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I'm looking to buy a module to trigger my bass drum at practice. I'm looking for a decapitated\lamb of god type sound.
any reccomendations

well personally i think the best module for any drummer these days is the roland TD-20. although it is very expensive it is pretty much the best out there for drum triggers. the best thing about it is you can edit the sound of the bass drum yourself so you can tweak it until its as lamb of god as you like. check it out but personally its not the sort of thing i would buy if i was just gonna use it at practice it costs alot of money and its a really in depth peice of kit. if most of your playing style is at the same dynamic sort of range then i would consider triggering up your whole kit apart from the snare. the base drum sounds on the TD-20 really do kick ass. ofcourse theres alot of advantages to this thing like you can change the overall sound of your kit in seconds but people do tend to comment on how they lose a connection with their kit. but its up to you, have a look into it.








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How bout

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Alesis-Trigger-IO-Percussion-Pad-to-Midi-Interface?sku=449754


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i use an Alesis DMPro, the sound modeling and editing capabilities are almost as good as the TD 20, but the user interface isn't as intuitive as the Roland. it's much cheaper than the TD 20 and sounds just as good, also if budget is an issue the DM 5 is a good choice as well. the trigger i/o is just a trigger interface but without any sounds so unless you have a sound source like a midi keyboard, sampler or a computer with drum sounds it won't be of much use








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tekdrum wrote:

i use an Alesis DMPro, the sound modeling and editing capabilities are almost as good as the TD 20, but the user interface isn't as intuitive as the Roland. it's much cheaper than the TD 20 and sounds just as good, also if budget is an issue the DM 5 is a good choice as well. the trigger i/o is just a trigger interface but without any sounds so unless you have a sound source like a midi keyboard, sampler or a computer with drum sounds it won't be of much use

Ahh thank you lolz... I was waitin for someone to make a topic so i could get that question answered. My decision is....ive gota a spare laptop...i just saved 150 $$

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"I never said that gear makes the player...I just wanted to exploit the other side of the argument."

we've had just about every module that's out there come through our studio over the years, and those we haven't seen we sought out to test drive;
I believe the Roland TD20 is definitely the top of the line- it's unsurpassed in tone (though the TD12 is of the same generation and sounds comparable) and ease of use/flexibility. It's what I use personally.

Softsamplers powered from a notebook are becoming quite popular these days, but the ones I've used just aren't as intuitive and user-friendly as the TD20. I've used a hardware sampler in the past, and they can sound really nice if you've got top-notch samples.

However, if you're only triggering your bass, the TD20 is way overkill. One of the cheaper Alesis modules is probably the best choice, budget-wise.
Or maybe an older Roland unit, if you can find one on Ebay. I've still got several TD7s sitting around the studio, and they could do some awesome things with velocity fades and layering of multiple sounds. They'd be pretty cheap if you can find one for sale.








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I'm not familiar with the Roland unit, but I've never had any complaints about the DM5. For the price, probably your best bet.

triggering anything but the bass drum just isnt for me. i'm with the derek roddy school of thought. i would never use a trigger on any of my toms or snare but triggering your bass drum is just without a doubt the way to go for metal








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I just checked the pricing on the roland td-20. jesus christ its like $1,500. maybe if i was trying to trigger my entire kit. but in my opinion spending that much money for a few tweakable bass drum sounds (thats all im using it for) is kinda crazy. i'm really looking to model my sound after from vitek of decapitated. if anyone knows what module he uses








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i dont want to have to hook my module up to anything so i'd like to have the sounds in there as opposed to having to hook it up to a sound bank or pc. or maybe something i could have loaded up with bass drum sounds by a friend who knows what hes doing. i'm really trying to find a simple solution. i want to plug this thing into a powered speaker,plug my trigger into it, be able to scroll thrugh some bass drum sounds, and use one








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yeah, you're probably best off with one of the Alesis or old Roland modules then. Especially if it's only for your bass.
They don't really put out much signal level though-
It'll take some healthy wattage to get up over loud guitars. Do you have a PA you can run a line out to?
otherwise your amp or powered speaker will probably need to push at least 100w I would think, if it's just for rehearsal.








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All of the modules have great sounds the big problem is triggers, you have to spend a ton of time tweeking the settings to keep the damn things from double triggering. if you play in a loud room its very hard to keep from double triggering. I triied triggering for 2 years with 4 different modules and I never was happy so I quit. re-learned to tune my drums and have relearned the joy of playing and not fuckin with the damn electric shit.

and there lies the magic of the axis triggers








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xdoseonex wrote:

and there lies the magic of the axis triggers

You ain't kidding.








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okay Ill bite what is a axis trigger. where do you get them? How much? Becouse I used ddrum triggers, stick on triggers, home made triggers, roland triggers, Bocus Berry triggers purple micro dot triggers and trigger perfect triggers those are the ones I can remember. I never heard of axis triggers. I want to see them and maybe try them.

http://www.axispercussion.com/AXcessories.html#EKIT

from the Axis site:
" AXIS EKIT Electronic Pedal Conversion (EKIT)
The EKIT is truly an Axis Percussion innovation. Now you can trigger your bass drum without the use of unreliable external acoustic bass drum triggers. Totally redesigned, this unique mechanical trigger easily mounts onto any AXIS bass drum pedal and lets you choose the exact moment and strength of your acoustic triggering. No more cross talk, double triggering, duct tape or trigger fatigue. This kit also has everything that you need to turn any AXIS A or X pedal into a stand alone electronic bass drum. Simply turn the beater around, add the supplied stopper pad and your AXIS pedal functions as a dynamic electronic bass drum pad and pedal all in one. "


you need to have an Axis pedal to install this.








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I wonder if its possible to retrofit those to another bass drum pedal or possably build something for another pedal. Im going to check this out. My creativity bulb just went off.

I use the pintech ez2. I bought it for $230. You should check it out on the pintech website.
www.pintechworld.com

The best way to keep anything from double triggering is to have the heads relatively tight, and stuff the hell out of the shell so the head won't vibrate.

If you're just going to trigger your bass I'd go with a cheaper module. The Roland one looks nice, but I don't know too many people besides a studio that would spend upwards of $1,500 on something like that. The individual Roland triggers for bass drums go for about $79 and up so if you coupled that with a module that cost $350 that wouldn't put you too much out of the bank. For me personally, I'm not a huge fan of triggering stuff except for bass drums...and even then I'm not too wild about that. The only thing I'd spend $ on is two triggers for my two bass drums and a cheap module to run it through. In a cost benefit analysis, unless every drum is being triggered on the kit and you have nine toms, roto toms, timbales, bongos, congas, pots, pans, etc., then it probably isn't worth the difference between $350 and $1,500 for a couple hundred new sounds probably only an 1/8 of which would be applicable to the bass drum category. Funny though how some people from the metal genre of music are bad mouthing triggering since it seems to be most popular in metal music in general at the moment. Recently I've seen quite a few "hordes of nords" Black Metal bands (not my thing) where every single drum is triggered (on a large acoustic kit). I then think to myself, "Why even bother with an acoustic kit? Why not just get an 'electric' kit with a bunch of pads?" The only word I can think of to describe the sound is...plastic.

if u've got a laptop or pc get the cheap version of bfd drums its a software module get a usb midi interface or something similar to plug your your trigger into and get a midi signal they have the best drum trigger sounds going plus with the software u can move the mics around in the bass drum to get a click or a boom bass drum u can tune it dampen it u can so much look it up this if u do it it should sound sweet. i think this module is alot better then any others around it has amazing quality drum samples much better than almost all other modules there are 30 recordings for each piece of the kit recorded at different volumes for realistic sounds its worth ago if u want the best sound

I'm somewhat technologically illiterate, so I'm pretyy new to the concept of triggers. I would love to get a beeffier sound to my bass drum in live situations.....


What are the basics for a trigger hook up? How does it work?








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NocturnalDrum wrote:

What are the basics for a trigger hook up? How does it work?

trigger basics article








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Just get a DM5 . Nuff said.








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