Which Grip do you prefer?
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Homki890

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 Preferred Grip
Which grip do you all prefer? Why?
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Tue Oct 17, 2006 5:18 pm |
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drummert2k

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Traditional- no big long explination of why i perfer it. i've been doing it since i started playing and its just what feels most natural.
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Tue Oct 17, 2006 6:09 pm |
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Homki890

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I Use Traditional most often. I switch between grips often, depends really on how I feel and the style im playing. I have to play Matched for Tenors. So, I'm well versed in both. I just like the feel of Traditional.
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Tue Oct 17, 2006 7:26 pm |
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Johnny Cat

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I can't pick a favorite. Matched for solid rocking or grooving around the kit, but it just doesn't feel right practicing rudiments using anything else but traditional grip, so I'd have to say both.
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Fri Oct 20, 2006 2:46 pm |
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ross666dreamcatcher

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i use match grip i just cant get to grips with traditional. your hand in traditional is almost making your stick point back in towards your body so your reach is completely minimalized. if your doing double bass you dont use one foot on your toe n the other flat or using your heel do you? no because if theyre both doing the same thing it makes it easier to concentrate n flow... why should the hands be different? i think the biggest turn off from using traditional grip for me is because the people who ive talked to or ecountered who do use it are close minded n up their own ass (this is how it is im right if you dont play like this then your shit sort of attitude). and i dont understand how just holding your stick different or having a smaller drum kit instantly makes you a better drummer so ive just never really overly explored traditional.
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Tue Oct 24, 2006 4:34 pm |
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Homki890

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Well, to really understand Traditional Grip, you have to understand where it came from. Traditional was invented because, back in the day, circa. 1700s, drums were on slings and slanted. It was not possible to play matched back then, harnesses were not available. Traditional was used.
When Harnesses were invented, bam, matched became the thing. Also, Grips have seemed to follow Drum Corps. When Harnesses came, Matched was the thing. No one could do it, everyone knew Traditional. So, Corps used Matched for a while. Now, they are switcing back to Traditional, because no one knows it well. And, some Drum Corps are going back to slanted drums. Insane, I know, but at least the slings havn't been brought back yet (they HURT, take it from me).
There are pros and cons with each grip. One pro is that it is different, so the hands are not focused on each other. I've been playing matched ever since I picked up drum sticks, and my left hand does not look the same anyway when I compare closely. It hampers me sometimes. ARGH! But, with Traditional, it is a whole new ball game. The left hand is playing a different style, so it is not concerned with making itself look the same as the right hand. In a sense, it becomes easier.
Another pro is the flash. Let's face, Traditional just looks cooler. The amount of stick tricks and flourishes possible with Traditional is more than with Matched. The coolest I have seen is a 360 Stick Twirl Tap. It's pretty nifty.
Pros to Matched is that it is easier, physically. Matched grip takes about 13 muscles to execute. Traditional takes 4. That means, the same amount of pressure and work exerted over fewer muscles, amounting to more strain. Another Pro to Matched is the simplicity of Matched. Just pick a stick up. Bam, matched.
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Sat Nov 04, 2006 11:00 pm |
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Matched - traditional just doesn't seem right for me. It's not comfy
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Sun Nov 05, 2006 7:26 am |
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Iqa

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Matched grip! Simply because I can't seem to control my strokes well with Traditional grip. How do you guys do that? Lol
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Wed Nov 08, 2006 8:15 am |
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Scott_Hurford

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Wed Nov 08, 2006 1:20 pm |
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Homki890

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Haha, I guess I'll make a second video about Traditional Grip.
You use the Thumb and Fore-Finger primarily, with the 4th finger for support. The third offers a buffer and guidepoint, and the pinky just hangs out.
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Wed Nov 08, 2006 9:15 pm |
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Iqa

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Ahh yes, a video would be nice. Gimme a buzz when it's up. Thanks.
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Thu Nov 09, 2006 7:15 am |
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I use both, I need traditional for jazz because its a mental thing, my hands aren't in the same positions so my right hand is less tempted to stray from its patern when I break out something fast with the left. for rock and funk I use both grips often within the same song, I might play a groove with traditional and then switch to matched for some tribal playing (once again its a mental thing, I think more primally with matched grip because I get the image of a caveman playing the drums) I couldn't live without both grips, if you can't figure out traditional go get a teacher, it takes time to get traditional grip down and there's some tricks to it that one doesn't usually find by themself,but you'll be glad you did. Its like anything else, the more you know about a subject the better you will be at it. I'd also add you should learn as many hand techniques for both grips as you can, you'll be surprised at what you come up with because of the mental aspect of drumming that poeple seem to foget about.
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Mon Nov 13, 2006 9:25 pm |
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madchops

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I play both equally. I get more power w/out trad. www.myspace.com/madchops82
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vargasdrumbeast

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Matched, mainly because I just feel more comfortable with it, plus I never really feel like I need to play with a traditional grip
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Sun Feb 04, 2007 5:20 pm |
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jbreshears

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I use both, it feels right wit diffrent styles. I would rec. learning both
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Sun Feb 04, 2007 9:35 pm |
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ClintKelly

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matched...traditional doesnt feel comfortable to me and its hard for me to manuver around
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Tue Mar 13, 2007 6:55 am |
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chocobebear

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i started out playing matched and still plays the same...
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Thu Apr 03, 2008 7:56 pm |
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OllyDrummer

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I like the feel of Traditional.
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Fri Apr 04, 2008 5:05 am |
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NH

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matched, because its how i've learnt, but traditional looks amazing when you watch someone use it if you ask me
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Fri Apr 04, 2008 6:53 am |
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Alan_

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I noticed a post earlier where the old argument about traditional utilizing fewer muscles was brought up. That may be true, but the muscles it uses are much larger.
I play matched most of the time simply because it's what I'm used to. I started my percussion training on tympani and mallets, as well as snare drum. I'm familiar with all the variations on matched grip (french, german, american). I like playing traditional for jazz, but my rudimental playing is a million times cleaner with matched.
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Fri Apr 04, 2008 7:33 am |
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imjeffcanudigit

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matched because thats what I started out with and still use.
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Fri Apr 04, 2008 7:47 am |
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boyd_s

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mostly matched in french grip, although i do use trad for some jazz (not much). i learnt matched when i started and never really switched.
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Sun Apr 06, 2008 8:12 pm |
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chocobebear

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i use french and german depending on circumstances
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Mon Apr 07, 2008 7:00 pm |
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TehPaco

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matched- more control for me, though i haven't ever formaly learned traditional.
i do a type of traditional when i play a more funky rythem sometimes just cause it feels right
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