psych!... i wish I had one








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i dont get it....the bell is not blue...why is it "the blue bell ride"?








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i was actually wondering that myself..








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its a mystery!








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i think that it implies you use a blue marker and color it in yourself
brootal!








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I was at sam ash tonight, and they had one on display. I litterally stood there and looked at it for atleast 10 minutes, I then moved onto touching it. Such a beatuiful ride! sound great too.








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Redifining the term ride cymbal. Way to go Paiste.

no no guys you got your facts all wrong

you see the real reason its bluebell is because
well you know the cown for bulebell ice cream?
well if you knew your underground barnyard bands
Youd find out that that cow is a pretty good drummer
So much so that paiste gave her an edorsment
and well you can guess the rest.

i hope this helps.

king_friday wrote:

i dont get it....the bell is not blue...why is it "the blue bell ride"?

Ya i was wondering that too.

dave wrote:

I litterally stood there and looked at it for atleast 10 minutes, I then moved onto touching it.

yes this is the blue bell rides lawyer...you will be hearing from us soon...








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mrgreenjeans2234 wrote:

no no guys you got your facts all wrong

you see the real reason its bluebell is because
well you know the cown for bulebell ice cream?
well if you knew your underground barnyard bands
Youd find out that that cow is a pretty good drummer
So much so that paiste gave her an edorsment
and well you can guess the rest.

i hope this helps.

I hope you know you are terribly wrong. Stewart Copeland, the drummer for "The Police" designed the cymbal with Paiste. I would know, I fuckin' own the thing.





I'll upload a video or two with it to youtube soon....








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phoenix7289 wrote:

mrgreenjeans2234 wrote:

no no guys you got your facts all wrong

you see the real reason its bluebell is because
well you know the cown for bulebell ice cream?
well if you knew your underground barnyard bands
Youd find out that that cow is a pretty good drummer
So much so that paiste gave her an edorsment
and well you can guess the rest.

i hope this helps.

I hope you know you are terribly wrong. Stewart Copeland, the drummer for "The Police" designed the cymbal with Paiste. I would know, I fuckin' own the thing.





I'll upload a video or two with it to youtube soon....

sick dude..i just ordered mine yesterday. What did you wind up paying for it?








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uh?
dude i was doing that thing called sarcasm
lets look at this at a literal stand point
would a cow hoestly be a drummer?
seriously you took me literaly?

i honestly knew stewart copeland designed it
i just thought maybe id add some comedy to it
my bad my bad

SO what does the blue do? Does it take away all the wash or what?

i listened to some sound clips of that ride. i was less than impressed. i need to find one.








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zen_drummer wrote:

Real life doesn't work that way, and one day he's gonna pull a stunt like that and they'll put a cap in him. At that point it won't matter that he was fat in high-school and couldn't get laid.

anavrinIV wrote:

i listened to some sound clips of that ride. i was less than impressed. i need to find one.

Paiste's website... the sound samples SUCK.

By the way people..

linkie:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBIJeUiOYb8#GU5U2spHI_4








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i watched the video. i think it would have been better to actually hear the cymbal.

i also watched your rant on rap. i lost all respect for you.








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zen_drummer wrote:

Real life doesn't work that way, and one day he's gonna pull a stunt like that and they'll put a cap in him. At that point it won't matter that he was fat in high-school and couldn't get laid.

anavrinIV wrote:

i watched the video. i think it would have been better to actually hear the cymbal.

i also watched your rant on rap. i lost all respect for you.

Why do you say that?








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anavrinIV wrote:

i also watched your rant on rap. i lost all respect for you.

i agree completly!

omg dude that was the most racist thing ive ever heard in my life
and ive hear some racist things before because
i am black!
and i play drums for a hardcore metal band myself
but to hear sombody say "all thouse gheto fuck heads go join gangs and get killed"
gets me more outraged and pissed off that i can imagen
youve said stupid arrogant cocieted things on this site before
that have more or less made you look like an idiot
but then you go off and say stupid dumbass thing
thats makes all black people out there "ghetto"
and "disrepectful christians"
im black, the youth minister at my church,
a play in a christian metal band.
i went to college graduated 25 in my class, i snare for the maddison scouts.
but according to you all of that mounts up to nothing
because im just a gheto guy thats going to go join
a gang and get killed.

your just a pathetic guy who has a close minded look on the world.

mrgreenjeans2234 wrote:

anavrinIV wrote:

i also watched your rant on rap. i lost all respect for you.

i agree completly!

omg dude that was the most racist thing ive ever heard in my life
and ive hear some racist things before because
i am black!
and i play drums for a hardcore metal band myself
but to hear sombody say "all thouse gheto fuck heads go join gangs and get killed"
gets me more outraged and pissed off that i can imagen
youve said stupid arrogant cocieted things on this site before
that have more or less made you look like an idiot
but then you go off and say stupid dumbass thing
thats makes all black people out there "ghetto"
and "disrepectful christians"
im black, the youth minister at my church,
a play in a christian metal band.
i went to college graduated 25 in my class, i snare for the maddison scouts.
but according to you all of that mounts up to nothing
because im just a gheto guy thats going to go join
a gang and get killed.

your just a pathetic guy who has a close minded look on the world.

in fall fairness to phoenix rap does blow ass








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phoenix7289 wrote:

mrgreenjeans2234 wrote:

no no guys you got your facts all wrong

you see the real reason its bluebell is because
well you know the cown for bulebell ice cream?
well if you knew your underground barnyard bands
Youd find out that that cow is a pretty good drummer
So much so that paiste gave her an edorsment
and well you can guess the rest.

i hope this helps.

I hope you know you are terribly wrong. Stewart Copeland, the drummer for "The Police" designed the cymbal with Paiste. I would know, I fuckin' own the thing.





I'll upload a video or two with it to youtube soon....

I like the weight that keeps the bass drum from moving lol

haha..i loved that rant phoenix. I dont dislike rap because of what it represents..i just hate it cuz it sounds like shit.








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yea, sure.
thats your opinion and your
very well entitled to it
but that hole entire diatribe
that he posted to the rest of the world
crossed from stating his opinion about rap
to insulting and making terrible and racist
generalizations about black people.

I didnt hear him bash black people at all. I heard him clearly point out that he isnt a racist and has black friends. Also in all fairness black people make up the majority of the rap industry, and the majority of black people who live in the ghetto listen to "gangsta rap" which fuels their desire to go shoot people (im talking about poor black inner cities)








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by the same token
many death metal songs involve
death, exectuion, sodomy, killing
ect.
but do you see metal heads going out
and killing other people?

so really you cant hold a stance on saying
that gansta rap fuels black people to murder
because thats completly untrue.

statisticly most murders are caused by
internal conflicts without the help of
and outside attribute.

mrgreenjeans2234 wrote:

by the same token
many death metal songs involve
death, exectuion, sodomy, killing
ect.
but do you see metal heads going out
and killing other people?

so really you cant hold a stance on saying
that gansta rap fuels black people to murder
because thats completly untrue.

statisticly most murders are caused by
internal conflicts without the help of
and outside attribute.

I agree with you. I didn't watch it, but Phoenix is entitled to his opinion, whether you find it racist or not. What bothers me is when music/t.v/movies/videogames get blamed for murders, and not the people who commited them.

mrgreenjeans2234 wrote:

by the same token
many death metal songs involve
death, exectuion, sodomy, killing
ect.
but do you see metal heads going out
and killing other people?

so really you cant hold a stance on saying
that gansta rap fuels black people to murder
because thats completly untrue.

statisticly most murders are caused by
internal conflicts without the help of
and outside attribute.

if you read my post properly..i spoke about a specific section of the black community, not black in general. Also I havent taken any side on death metal..only phoenix has..








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i wasnt saying that you were saying black people in general
you just said that gansta rap was fueling "the majority who live in the ghetto"
to commit crimes
and i was saying that you cant say that because
death metal says to commit crimes to
and metal heads and thouse that listen to it dont
commit crimes, or at least at any noticable rates

so it cant be assumed that rap music is the cause of crime
in inner city, suburban or any other place.

Ok ok ok everybody... let's just calm down for one moment here. I know, that gangsta rap has been studied to fuel the ones who listen to it to do these things. What from external reasons like quite often, they experience violence starting at a young age, to the fact that the majority of their music tells them to murder an whatever, not that many death metal songs say that, and you know... death metal is not even the most popular metal. If you look at more popular metal bands like I'll pull a few out of the hat... Iron Maiden, Dream Theater, Sonata Arctica, even METALLICA, they aren't really telling people to kill others. They may talk about killing... or death, but not to kill others. Certainly no. I don't know too much Metallica, but I do know tons of Iron Maiden, Dream Theater, and Sonata. Iron Maiden=War, religion, politics.
Dream Theater=progressive topics like false stories like Scenes From a Memory or Octavarium.
Sonata=Wolves, women, and life and death.

Again though, never did I really say in that video anything truly racist... perhaps things against people in that area... but ghetto fucks... can mean, the blacks, mexicans, AND EVEN WHITES in the ghetto. I am refering to ALL of them.








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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AAj0-0PLdc

The wanted video...








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everything sounds like shit with out drum mics haha..but i guess a vid cam is way cheaper than nice mics. Not to bad tho. A condenser mic would have made it sound like a true recording.








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^ That's so true. That ride does sound horrible through that camera though.

Hack_and_Slash wrote:

^ That's so true. That ride does sound horrible through that camera though.

All rides will, it also doesn't help the distance it is from the camera.








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I watched 3 of your videos, from whom the bell tolls , your ride beat and the tour. I didn't even watch the black one. AND i also read your outburst earlier about " i should know i fuckin' own the thing" you sound like an amature. Do you think your the only one in the world that has one, and does it automatically grant you special drumming powers and maybe turn you into a cow? (if it does..SOLD!)

theres my rant.

myownenemy wrote:

I watched 3 of your videos, from whom the bell tolls , your ride beat and the tour. I didn't even watch the black one. AND i also read your outburst earlier about " i should know i fuckin' own the thing" you sound like an amature. Do you think your the only one in the world that has one, and does it automatically grant you special drumming powers and maybe turn you into a cow? (if it does..SOLD!)

theres my rant.

LOL
Special drumming powers.. I like you man lol
Nah... I know others own it.... sorry if I seem all like I'M SPECIAL.... I mean come on.. give me a break... I just got an awesome cymbal and finally have a good sounding ride... can I not be a little happy? XD








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phoenix7289 wrote:

myownenemy wrote:

I watched 3 of your videos, from whom the bell tolls , your ride beat and the tour. I didn't even watch the black one. AND i also read your outburst earlier about " i should know i fuckin' own the thing" you sound like an amature. Do you think your the only one in the world that has one, and does it automatically grant you special drumming powers and maybe turn you into a cow? (if it does..SOLD!)

theres my rant.

LOL
Special drumming powers.. I like you man lol
Nah... I know others own it.... sorry if I seem all like I'M SPECIAL.... I mean come on.. give me a break... I just got an awesome cymbal and finally have a good sounding ride... can I not be a little happy? XD

yeah...i refresh ebay EACH day looking for it

mrgreenjeans2234 wrote:

by the same token
many death metal songs involve
death, exectuion, sodomy, killing
ect.
but do you see metal heads going out
and killing other people?

so really you cant hold a stance on saying
that gansta rap fuels black people to murder
because thats completly untrue.

statisticly most murders are caused by
internal conflicts without the help of
and outside attribute.

i know alot of black kids. the ones that listen to mantstream hip hop,they are for the most part are the type of kids i would not want to hang out with. or even be anywhere near. those are kids i would use a certain N word to describe. all the black kids i know that listen to metal or punk etc. are cool as could be. dont speak in pure ebonics. dont constantly talk about theyre baby mama. and dont try to rob every kid they see that has white skin. furthermore i know alot of white kids that listen to mainstream hip hop. alot of them have the same ignorant mentality. those are also the kids i would use a certain N word to describe. so i dont think its in the color of the skin. as much as its in the music and the lifestyle. that music goes along with a certain type of lifestyle that just happends to be chosen by primarily blacks. obviously its not only backs that choose this lifestyle. just the vast majority. you cant explain why about half the united states prison population is black when they only accound for about 12% of the united states. or why the majority of the black population resorts to such negative music that strives on a futile attempt to spew a positive message about murder, theft, and whores. shit the majority of white people probly listen to maintsream hi-hop as well. (though obviously not the devastating ratio stated in the former). So its not the color of the skin. its the path chosen. we just have to wonder why the poeple that choose those paths do so.

BAM! theres your rant









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phoenix7289 wrote:

myownenemy wrote:

I watched 3 of your videos, from whom the bell tolls , your ride beat and the tour. I didn't even watch the black one. AND i also read your outburst earlier about " i should know i fuckin' own the thing" you sound like an amature. Do you think your the only one in the world that has one, and does it automatically grant you special drumming powers and maybe turn you into a cow? (if it does..SOLD!)

theres my rant.

LOL
Special drumming powers.. I like you man lol
Nah... I know others own it.... sorry if I seem all like I'M SPECIAL.... I mean come on.. give me a break... I just got an awesome cymbal and finally have a good sounding ride... can I not be a little happy? XD

be AMPED and gloat to eveyone that doesnt have one.








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xdoseonex wrote:

mrgreenjeans2234 wrote:

by the same token
many death metal songs involve
death, exectuion, sodomy, killing
ect.
but do you see metal heads going out
and killing other people?

so really you cant hold a stance on saying
that gansta rap fuels black people to murder
because thats completly untrue.

statisticly most murders are caused by
internal conflicts without the help of
and outside attribute.

i know alot of black kids. the ones that listen to mantstream hip hop,they are for the most part are the type of kids i would not want to hang out with. or even be anywhere near. those are kids i would use a certain N word to describe. all the black kids i know that listen to metal or punk etc. are cool as could be. dont speak in pure ebonics. dont constantly talk about theyre baby mama. and dont try to rob every kid they see that has white skin. furthermore i know alot of white kids that listen to mainstream hip hop. alot of them have the same ignorant mentality. those are also the kids i would use a certain N word to describe. so i dont think its in the color of the skin. as much as its in the music and the lifestyle. that music goes along with a certain type of lifestyle that just happends to be chosen by primarily blacks. obviously its not only backs that choose this lifestyle. just the vast majority. you cant explain why about half the united states prison population is black when they only accound for about 12% of the united states. or why the majority of the black population resorts to such negative music that strives on a futile attempt to spew a positive message about murder, theft, and whores. shit the majority of white people probly listen to maintsream hi-hop as well. (though obviously not the devastating ratio stated in the former). So its not the color of the skin. its the path chosen. we just have to wonder why the poeple that choose those paths do so.

BAM! theres your rant

Oh that was beautiful!!! And I will be amped! lol








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xdoseonex wrote:

phoenix7289 wrote:

myownenemy wrote:

I watched 3 of your videos, from whom the bell tolls , your ride beat and the tour. I didn't even watch the black one. AND i also read your outburst earlier about " i should know i fuckin' own the thing" you sound like an amature. Do you think your the only one in the world that has one, and does it automatically grant you special drumming powers and maybe turn you into a cow? (if it does..SOLD!)

theres my rant.

LOL
Special drumming powers.. I like you man lol
Nah... I know others own it.... sorry if I seem all like I'M SPECIAL.... I mean come on.. give me a break... I just got an awesome cymbal and finally have a good sounding ride... can I not be a little happy? XD

be AMPED and gloat to eveyone that doesnt have one.

hell yes








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anavrinIV wrote:

i also watched your rant on rap. i lost all respect for you.

i totally agree man , how about i rant about why christianity sucks, i could do it but i wont cuz it'd offend people , i think phoenix did it just cuz he could, which in all is pointless man. and i bet didnt care to note that nicko mcbrain from iron maiden is christian , so i guess no ones cares about that. in refurance to rap talking about rape and killing and sin woman for sex, HAVE YOU EVER READ GRINDCORE LYRICS ? wtf man waking the cadaver/canibal corpse/carcass sing about death and pedofilia all the time. christian rap isnt disrespectful to ur religion at all , i bet youve never listened to any one like psalm 29 or wotever the fuck their called, infact , do you really know wot ur talkin about ,or are you just being racist, sure you cliam your not , but ur only asumin that black people listen to rap, ( otherwise you wudnt of brought up racism at all ) you also claim that everyone who listens to rap goes out and gets shot in gangs. that not even true. YOu also mentio that you find rap " evil " i take it youve never notice that iron maiden did an album titles " the number of the beast " surely satan is the epiphany of evil , considering your a christian. and surely beign a true christian you would learn to forgive others. personally i think your to imature to respect other music even if you dislike/ dont listen to it, sure , im not the biggest rap fan , but i wouldnt call it talentless for one second , cuz people buy the records, so it cant be shit.
Your tryin to compare rap; a completely different genre, to stuff like power metal and classicly, what the fuck did you expect,
by the sounds of things, your only tryin to make iron maiden sound better than rap, sure some people might say that was acurate, but some people might listen to maiden say " thats a heap of crap "

seriously phoneix dude, i cudnt even watch part 2 cuz i used to respect you , but you just seem like a total fucking nazi.








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phil-drummer wrote:

anavrinIV wrote:

i also watched your rant on rap. i lost all respect for you.

i totally agree man , how about i rant about why christianity sucks, i could do it but i wont cuz it'd offend people , i think phoenix did it just cuz he could, which in all is pointless man. and i bet didnt care to note that nicko mcbrain from iron maiden is christian , so i guess no ones cares about that. in refurance to rap talking about rape and killing and sin woman for sex, HAVE YOU EVER READ GRINDCORE LYRICS ? wtf man waking the cadaver/canibal corpse/carcass sing about death and pedofilia all the time. christian rap isnt disrespectful to ur religion at all , i bet youve never listened to any one like psalm 29 or wotever the fuck their called, infact , do you really know wot ur talkin about ,or are you just being racist, sure you cliam your not , but ur only asumin that black people listen to rap, ( otherwise you wudnt of brought up racism at all ) you also claim that everyone who listens to rap goes out and gets shot in gangs. that not even true. YOu also mentio that you find rap " evil " i take it youve never notice that iron maiden did an album titles " the number of the beast " surely satan is the epiphany of evil , considering your a christian. and surely beign a true christian you would learn to forgive others. personally i think your to imature to respect other music even if you dislike/ dont listen to it, sure , im not the biggest rap fan , but i wouldnt call it talentless for one second , cuz people buy the records, so it cant be shit.
Your tryin to compare rap; a completely different genre, to stuff like power metal and classicly, what the fuck did you expect,
by the sounds of things, your only tryin to make iron maiden sound better than rap, sure some people might say that was acurate, but some people might listen to maiden say " thats a heap of crap "

seriously phoneix dude, i cudnt even watch part 2 cuz i used to respect you , but you just seem like a total fucking nazi.

I also made that video a bit ago. I have talked to several people about it since then. You can say you don't respect me anymore, that's fine, let me tell you this. I know Nicko McBrain is Christian. I also know grindcore doesn't have the best lyrics. But let's think about it this way.... do you hear grindcore on TV or the RADIO etc etc??? Man fuck.... rap gets forced on people and that's why some people like myself are forced to take it to the next level to explain why it is not good. However I know Christian rap is good. BUT if you had listened to the fucking video, you would've heard me say, Christian rap IS FINE, oh wait, maybe that was in PART TWO, and I say how, I just don't like that rappers who rap about rape, murder, and drugs.. then turn around and make a Christian album.... and perhaps, when they do concerts, they rap a mix of both.
THAT is fucking disrespectful man.








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