Hi

I'm looking for some unique blast beats.

Anyone have any idea on some?








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just youtube derek roddy
they may be unique








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Havn't found much....

iampoor wrote:

Havn't found much....

hmm
type in, grindcore drumming, i did that and found an asian guy playing pretty good








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kylevater wrote:

iampoor wrote:

Havn't found much....

hmm
type in, grindcore drumming, i did that and found an asian guy playing pretty good

Which one?

The one from Morbid Axe?

If you are not finding what you like, make up your own. Take a pattern you like, then start to speed it up, when you get too fast and it sounds cluttered, start dropping stuff out without changing your speed(slowing down), keep going faster eventually you have a blast beat.








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Bong wrote:

If you are not finding what you like, make up your own. Take a pattern you like, then start to speed it up, when you get too fast and it sounds cluttered, start dropping stuff out without changing your speed(slowing down), keep going faster eventually you have a blast beat.

Thats one of the problems. I need some help thinking of patterns....

ANy ideas?

iampoor wrote:

Bong wrote:

If you are not finding what you like, make up your own. Take a pattern you like, then start to speed it up, when you get too fast and it sounds cluttered, start dropping stuff out without changing your speed(slowing down), keep going faster eventually you have a blast beat.

Thats one of the problems. I need some help thinking of patterns....

ANy ideas?

make a sound that goes:
bumbumbumbumchickchickbumdoink
tatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatata








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Here are some drummers that use blastbeats in their music, maybe you can take a look at their styles:

George Kollias


Derek Roddy


Max Kolesne

kylevater wrote:

iampoor wrote:

Bong wrote:

If you are not finding what you like, make up your own. Take a pattern you like, then start to speed it up, when you get too fast and it sounds cluttered, start dropping stuff out without changing your speed(slowing down), keep going faster eventually you have a blast beat.

Thats one of the problems. I need some help thinking of patterns....

ANy ideas?

make a sound that goes:
bumbumbumbumchickchickbumdoink
tatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatata

Lol. Nice sound effects.

Hmmm, i just listen to music like death metal and get inspirations from there. You have to be creative. Maybe you try listening to as many genres as possible and just work it from the different patterns in each of the genres. You can add a little twist and mix things up. The patterns are different, but the count beat do remain the same, no ?








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Here are some ideas...forgive me if some of these sound obvious. I'm not a blast beat veteran, but know what they are and have been playing around with incorporating something similiar into some of the classical rock we play. I was surprised at just how flexible blast beats are if your strategic about how they are incorporated into a fill.

* Play your blast beats in the form of a triplet.
* Play broken triplets. To me this would sound so cool because of the speed of the blast beat, it would sound almost like an audio signal being broken up due to interference or something.
* Accent - strategically - within the blast beat. This should pose quite a challenge, but its doable and could add some chaotic color to the blast.
* Also think about mixing and matching. I mean, instead of snare and bass drum only, walk the toms, even some short sustain cymbals ( splash, china, etc. ).

dea wrote:

Here are some ideas...forgive me if some of these sound obvious. I'm not a blast beat veteran, but know what they are and have been playing around with incorporating something similiar into some of the classical rock we play. I was surprised at just how flexible blast beats are if your strategic about how they are incorporated into a fill.

* Play your blast beats in the form of a triplet.
* Play broken triplets. To me this would sound so cool because of the speed of the blast beat, it would sound almost like an audio signal being broken up due to interference or something.
* Accent - strategically - within the blast beat. This should pose quite a challenge, but its doable and could add some chaotic color to the blast.
* Also think about mixing and matching. I mean, instead of snare and bass drum only, walk the toms, even some short sustain cymbals ( splash, china, etc. ).

Good ideas. Also, I find that accenting key phrases in the guitar riff with cymbals makes the blast more interesting and adds a "false groove" to it.








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try doing triplet blasts. setting your hands to triplets, in a cannibal style, along with 16ths on kicks. take it to extreme tempos too. there is always gravity blasting, which i think represents the ultimate intensity, but be sure to match the feet damn it! lol. the drummer from krisiun plays traditional blasts with triplet footing. and yea make up your own blasts if you want. like set your hands to a traditional or cannibal style, and do some weirdo pattern with your feet.








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I'v been doing alot of freehand triples. using a freehand double for the first 2 strokes, and incorporating it into blastbeats at fast tempos








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Blastbeats can only be so complex and unique. I like that blastbeat that Derek Roddy does with his two snares.

It sorta goes like

ccccccccccccccccccc
sssssssssssssssssss
b b S b b S b b S

He keeps the blast on the snare and cymbal (Hi-hat in this case), and does a simple 4/4 with the bass and aux snare. It's unique, and sounds pretty sick.








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DYNAMICS. it's the most useful thing a drummer can have and if you add them to blast beats it can really become origional. one i also came up with is a regular alternating blast, but the right hand does a little slower doubles. another you can use is rim shots on the left hand, constant or varied. another you can do with the left hand is throwing in short gravity blasts here and there, you can do this with your hands hitting together, apart, or in a shuffle variation. one thing that dosn't sound too much different but i do sometimes is double strokes on the bass drum.








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try varying the speed of the blast beats
and try adding rolls and fills in between blasts








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chocobebear wrote:

try varying the speed of the blast beats
and try adding rolls and fills in between blasts

Ah... Thats kinda obvious

iampoor wrote:

chocobebear wrote:

try varying the speed of the blast beats
and try adding rolls and fills in between blasts

Ah... Thats kinda obvious

some people just seem to overlook the obvious
and also, i've seen and heard so many bands who has very little or no variation with their blast beats








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chocobebear wrote:

iampoor wrote:

chocobebear wrote:

try varying the speed of the blast beats
and try adding rolls and fills in between blasts

Ah... Thats kinda obvious

some people just seem to overlook the obvious
and also, i've seen and heard so many bands who has very little or no variation with their blast beats

AH I see

SOrry about that. When I read your post I assumed that you thought I didn't know to play fills in between them, but now I see why.

SOrry Dude.








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Seen plenty of good suggestion on this subject so far. Here are my 2-cents on it:

*Build your foot speed; both left and right. Try using 1 foot while blasting (rolls and roll patterns, obviously, being the exception) and incorporate open/closed hi-hat work into the beats to jazz them up. Using 1 foot for 8th note patterns and quick doubles or triples has become a kind of lost art in this genre, so doing that alone could go a little way towards defining your own style.

*Interchange extreme drumming beats between grind beats (bass drum & cymbal lead with snare on the "off' beat) and blast beats (bass, cymbal and snare all on the "down" beat). Vary the bass drum patterns from 8th notes to 16th note rolls and broken roll patterns under the various cymbal/snare patterns. Also do the same with the snare patterns while keeping a steady beat with the bass drum(s).

*Play "broken" cymbal beats. For example, drop notes from the cymbal pattern instead of playing straight through, while maintaing the bass/snare beat (John Longstreth of Origin and Kai Hahto formerly of Rotten Sound are the best examples of this I can identify). Take a grind beat, where the cymbal and snare are alternating 16th's and drop the "and" beat of the cymbal pattern so you are in essence, playing a quarter note cymbal pattern while the snare pattern stays the same.

*Use the ride bell and smaller accent cymbals to accent notes. I saw this suggestion in this thread a couple of other times, but it's one of the, if not THE, most efficient ways to give these beats an identity of their own.








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jaundiced wrote:

Seen plenty of good suggestion on this subject so far. Here are my 2-cents on it:

*Build your foot speed; both left and right. Try using 1 foot while blasting (rolls and roll patterns, obviously, being the exception) and incorporate open/closed hi-hat work into the beats to jazz them up. Using 1 foot for 8th note patterns and quick doubles or triples has become a kind of lost art in this genre, so doing that alone could go a little way towards defining your own style.

*Interchange extreme drumming beats between grind beats (bass drum & cymbal lead with snare on the "off' beat) and blast beats (bass, cymbal and snare all on the "down" beat). Vary the bass drum patterns from 8th notes to 16th note rolls and broken roll patterns under the various cymbal/snare patterns. Also do the same with the snare patterns while keeping a steady beat with the bass drum(s).

*Play "broken" cymbal beats. For example, drop notes from the cymbal pattern instead of playing straight through, while maintaing the bass/snare beat (John Longstreth of Origin and Kai Hahto formerly of Rotten Sound are the best examples of this I can identify). Take a grind beat, where the cymbal and snare are alternating 16th's and drop the "and" beat of the cymbal pattern so you are in essence, playing a quarter note cymbal pattern while the snare pattern stays the same.

*Use the ride bell and smaller accent cymbals to accent notes. I saw this suggestion in this thread a couple of other times, but it's one of the, if not THE, most efficient ways to give these beats an identity of their own.

I usually alternate hand work with blast beats insted of going all on the down beat. So you'd be alternating ride and snare with bass for each hit. I think it has a more full sounding result.








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try accenting your blast beats and play broken blast...
that way you can create accented blast patterns that are unique in a way








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dave lombardo, derek roddy and john glassbrenner from burial are all stellar examples








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derek roddy and george kolias i would say








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Kevin fucking talley. check him out








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derek roddy, george kollias, kevin talley, john lngstreth.

watch all their videos on youtube and notice how they break up the blast beat and make it their own.

oh yeah, inferno is also a really good example. he is the drummer of inferno. listen to the song "at the left hand ov god" you will notice him doing a blast beat on the snare, and doing a different groove on the china. its pretty brutal.








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