Blastbeats can only be so complex and unique. I like that blastbeat that Derek Roddy does with his two snares.

It sorta goes like

ccccccccccccccccccc
sssssssssssssssssss
b b S b b S b b S

He keeps the blast on the snare and cymbal (Hi-hat in this case), and does a simple 4/4 with the bass and aux snare. It's unique, and sounds pretty sick.








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DYNAMICS. it's the most useful thing a drummer can have and if you add them to blast beats it can really become origional. one i also came up with is a regular alternating blast, but the right hand does a little slower doubles. another you can use is rim shots on the left hand, constant or varied. another you can do with the left hand is throwing in short gravity blasts here and there, you can do this with your hands hitting together, apart, or in a shuffle variation. one thing that dosn't sound too much different but i do sometimes is double strokes on the bass drum.








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try varying the speed of the blast beats
and try adding rolls and fills in between blasts








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chocobebear wrote:

try varying the speed of the blast beats
and try adding rolls and fills in between blasts

Ah... Thats kinda obvious

iampoor wrote:

chocobebear wrote:

try varying the speed of the blast beats
and try adding rolls and fills in between blasts

Ah... Thats kinda obvious

some people just seem to overlook the obvious
and also, i've seen and heard so many bands who has very little or no variation with their blast beats








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chocobebear wrote:

iampoor wrote:

chocobebear wrote:

try varying the speed of the blast beats
and try adding rolls and fills in between blasts

Ah... Thats kinda obvious

some people just seem to overlook the obvious
and also, i've seen and heard so many bands who has very little or no variation with their blast beats

AH I see

SOrry about that. When I read your post I assumed that you thought I didn't know to play fills in between them, but now I see why.

SOrry Dude.








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Seen plenty of good suggestion on this subject so far. Here are my 2-cents on it:

*Build your foot speed; both left and right. Try using 1 foot while blasting (rolls and roll patterns, obviously, being the exception) and incorporate open/closed hi-hat work into the beats to jazz them up. Using 1 foot for 8th note patterns and quick doubles or triples has become a kind of lost art in this genre, so doing that alone could go a little way towards defining your own style.

*Interchange extreme drumming beats between grind beats (bass drum & cymbal lead with snare on the "off' beat) and blast beats (bass, cymbal and snare all on the "down" beat). Vary the bass drum patterns from 8th notes to 16th note rolls and broken roll patterns under the various cymbal/snare patterns. Also do the same with the snare patterns while keeping a steady beat with the bass drum(s).

*Play "broken" cymbal beats. For example, drop notes from the cymbal pattern instead of playing straight through, while maintaing the bass/snare beat (John Longstreth of Origin and Kai Hahto formerly of Rotten Sound are the best examples of this I can identify). Take a grind beat, where the cymbal and snare are alternating 16th's and drop the "and" beat of the cymbal pattern so you are in essence, playing a quarter note cymbal pattern while the snare pattern stays the same.

*Use the ride bell and smaller accent cymbals to accent notes. I saw this suggestion in this thread a couple of other times, but it's one of the, if not THE, most efficient ways to give these beats an identity of their own.








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jaundiced wrote:

Seen plenty of good suggestion on this subject so far. Here are my 2-cents on it:

*Build your foot speed; both left and right. Try using 1 foot while blasting (rolls and roll patterns, obviously, being the exception) and incorporate open/closed hi-hat work into the beats to jazz them up. Using 1 foot for 8th note patterns and quick doubles or triples has become a kind of lost art in this genre, so doing that alone could go a little way towards defining your own style.

*Interchange extreme drumming beats between grind beats (bass drum & cymbal lead with snare on the "off' beat) and blast beats (bass, cymbal and snare all on the "down" beat). Vary the bass drum patterns from 8th notes to 16th note rolls and broken roll patterns under the various cymbal/snare patterns. Also do the same with the snare patterns while keeping a steady beat with the bass drum(s).

*Play "broken" cymbal beats. For example, drop notes from the cymbal pattern instead of playing straight through, while maintaing the bass/snare beat (John Longstreth of Origin and Kai Hahto formerly of Rotten Sound are the best examples of this I can identify). Take a grind beat, where the cymbal and snare are alternating 16th's and drop the "and" beat of the cymbal pattern so you are in essence, playing a quarter note cymbal pattern while the snare pattern stays the same.

*Use the ride bell and smaller accent cymbals to accent notes. I saw this suggestion in this thread a couple of other times, but it's one of the, if not THE, most efficient ways to give these beats an identity of their own.

I usually alternate hand work with blast beats insted of going all on the down beat. So you'd be alternating ride and snare with bass for each hit. I think it has a more full sounding result.








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try accenting your blast beats and play broken blast...
that way you can create accented blast patterns that are unique in a way








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dave lombardo, derek roddy and john glassbrenner from burial are all stellar examples








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derek roddy and george kolias i would say








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Kevin fucking talley. check him out








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derek roddy, george kollias, kevin talley, john lngstreth.

watch all their videos on youtube and notice how they break up the blast beat and make it their own.

oh yeah, inferno is also a really good example. he is the drummer of inferno. listen to the song "at the left hand ov god" you will notice him doing a blast beat on the snare, and doing a different groove on the china. its pretty brutal.








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