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Tue Jan 08, 2008 1:14 pm |
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Tazdrummer

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I wouldn't mind hearing some reviews on the black metal bells.
I am probably getting one in the next few months but wouldn't mind hearing someones first hand opinion.
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Tue Jan 08, 2008 1:30 pm |
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Tazdrummer wrote:I wouldn't mind hearing some reviews on the black metal bells.
I am probably getting one in the next few months but wouldn't mind hearing someones first hand opinion.
I have one, great bell sound.
Sounds deeper than it looks and isn't nearly as pingy and overbearing as the Zil-Bel. I have them both on my kit and they tend to work pretty well together.
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Tue Jan 08, 2008 7:23 pm |
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Tazdrummer

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Howepirate wrote:Tazdrummer wrote:I wouldn't mind hearing some reviews on the black metal bells.
I am probably getting one in the next few months but wouldn't mind hearing someones first hand opinion.
I have one, great bell sound.
Sounds deeper than it looks and isn't nearly as pingy and overbearing as the Zil-Bel. I have them both on my kit and they tend to work pretty well together.
Modern Drummer gave them a great review.
Once I get my hats I think the next cymbal purchase (or the one after that) will be either the black metal bell or possibly one of these Saluda prototype bells I saw in PDF...
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Tue Jan 08, 2008 8:15 pm |
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DrumsPlus

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Howepirate wrote:Tazdrummer wrote:I wouldn't mind hearing some reviews on the black metal bells.
I am probably getting one in the next few months but wouldn't mind hearing someones first hand opinion.
I have one, great bell sound.
Sounds deeper than it looks and isn't nearly as pingy and overbearing as the Zil-Bel. I have them both on my kit and they tend to work pretty well together.
Are there any other ones you would suggest or not suggest. I don't want something pingy, but really haven't researched it much.
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Tue Jan 08, 2008 9:57 pm |
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EOTE_drummer

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DrumsPlus wrote:Howepirate wrote:Tazdrummer wrote:I wouldn't mind hearing some reviews on the black metal bells.
I am probably getting one in the next few months but wouldn't mind hearing someones first hand opinion.
I have one, great bell sound.
Sounds deeper than it looks and isn't nearly as pingy and overbearing as the Zil-Bel. I have them both on my kit and they tend to work pretty well together.
Are there any other ones you would suggest or not suggest. I don't want something pingy, but really haven't researched it much.
all the stagg cymbals i have seen look so intimidating, but ive never played any.
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Tue Jan 08, 2008 10:28 pm |
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Potatoe Snack

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i've never played anything else but I own a bell. It gets the job done, I realized after buying it and messing with it, I'm just fine with the bell on my ride. Nothing against the actual Stagg Bell though. They look cooler than other bells I've seen.
Theres my 2 cents on Stagg...
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Thu Jan 10, 2008 11:01 pm |
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DrumsPlus

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I guess bells to me just look fragile at best. I really don't know because I haven't used one and I don't think anyone in my area uses one.
I guess I'm just wondering if it's worth the money.
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Thu Jan 10, 2008 11:04 pm |
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Potatoe Snack

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DrumsPlus wrote:I guess bells to me just look fragile at best. I really don't know because I haven't used one and I don't think anyone in my area uses one.
I guess I'm just wondering if it's worth the money.
its worth the money.
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Tue Jan 15, 2008 3:16 am |
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Rem

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staggs are actually awesome for the price...
their chinas are soo good... id recommend the 18" Double Hammered for any metal/loud drummers...
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Thu Jan 17, 2008 2:23 pm |
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Cheerful-Bear

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Do the bells have along sustain? I've been looking for a bell with short sustain.
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Thu Jan 24, 2008 6:49 am |
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Fraz_whatley

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does anyone have any experience with any stagg hihat or rides or crashes
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Thu Feb 07, 2008 12:17 pm |
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DrumsPlus

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Fraz_whatley wrote:does anyone have any experience with any stagg hihat or rides or crashes
I just tried a medium crash. It sounded nice, more like a Sabian HH but a little pinger.
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Thu Feb 07, 2008 1:19 pm |
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dw_drums_4lyfe

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stagg makes nice splash cymbals
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Sun Feb 10, 2008 3:50 am |
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shine.fm-youth

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has anyone play on the black metal bells/splashes
do they sound as good as they look?
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Sun Feb 10, 2008 3:35 pm |
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dw_drums_4lyfe

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shine.fm-youth wrote:has anyone play on the black metal bells/splashes
do they sound as good as they look?
its really 50/50, some do some dont, and also its what u prefer, so u could like them all, but yeah they're alright
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Tue Feb 12, 2008 3:55 am |
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shine.fm-youth

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dw_drums_4lyfe wrote:shine.fm-youth wrote:has anyone play on the black metal bells/splashes
do they sound as good as they look?
its really 50/50, some do some dont, and also its what u prefer, so u could like them all, but yeah they're alright
yea man i know what you mean
they didn't have any sound clips
so i hoping someone on here had used them
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Tue Feb 12, 2008 10:31 am |
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I haven't been on here in a while, but I'm in a bind. I have a bar gig coming up in 9 days, and a really big event lined up in April which will be televised, and I currently am needing to upgrade my brass a little bit. I've got my kit currently outfitted with Zildjian ZBTs. I know those aren't the best, but also they're not the worst. I recently ran across some Stagg cymbals at really decent prices and I need to know if I get the 20" ride and 16" crash, would it be taking a step to the side, or somewhat upgrading? I need to know because I need some better sound from my brass if my band's gonna be on TV! Thanks!
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Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:59 pm |
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Fraz_whatley

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Just my 2 cents (or pennies seeing as im english)
Ive been upgrading my setup to stagg cymbals 4 about 3 weeks.
They sound awesome for the price, especially the fat (phat) hats, the crashes are extremely explosive, and im ordering my new exo ride this week
I used to use meinl amun and classics just a ride, crash and hats.
But because of how cheap and great these cymbals sound ive now got the following setup.
15" dh medium crash
14" dh fat hats
16" dh medium crash
10" dh splash
8" dh splash
12" dh splash
18" dh medium crash
20" dh exo heavy ride (on its way)
17" dh medium crash
16" wuhan china (will be getting this in stagg soon)
their bells are awesome too, so one day if the need calls i shall be getting some
I play heavy rock and proggressive rock, With heck loads of phat riffs
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Thu Feb 21, 2008 12:15 pm |
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drumsforlife

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Fraz_whatley wrote:Just my 2 cents (or pennies seeing as im english)
Ive been upgrading my setup to stagg cymbals 4 about 3 weeks.
They sound awesome for the price, especially the fat (phat) hats, the crashes are extremely explosive, and im ordering my new exo ride this week
I used to use meinl amun and classics just a ride, crash and hats.
But because of how cheap and great these cymbals sound ive now got the following setup.
15" dh medium crash
14" dh fat hats
16" dh medium crash
10" dh splash
8" dh splash
12" dh splash
18" dh medium crash
20" dh exo heavy ride (on its way)
17" dh medium crash
16" wuhan china (will be getting this in stagg soon)
their bells are awesome too, so one day if the need calls i shall be getting some
I play heavy rock and proggressive rock, With heck loads of phat riffs
I appreciate the 2 cents Fraz. And I do believe you caught on to my ruse and yes I actually would like to upgrade my whole cymbal setup, but for now I believe I can get away with the 16" crash and 20" ride. I'm not certain on what series the store carries, but I'm sure they'll be able to order what I want. What I saw was a sheet they had printed off of the serial numbers of the part, and the description - i.e. '20" ride cymbal.'
I'm thinking I'm going to go ahead and invest in my upgrade. The only thing I'm still worried about is if they new ones will sonically fit in with my current setup. I don't plan on changing my hats. I actually like my Zildjian ZBT 13" hats. I found them in a yard sale for $30. I know ZBT is a lower end line, but those hats have served me well, and they sound awesome. Plus, when I bought them six years ago, they were already weathered. For some reason, I believe Zildjian had ZBT out as a better quality line at some point. I mean, by hats have a completely different logo on them than the current ZBT line. I also plan on keeping the China and the 18" crash/ride. The 14" crash I have is going under a 12" Wuhan China that I happened to find one night at a gig that somebody had just thrown out. It had a crack in it, and now it has a complete chunk missing, but I could still use it for a stack.
Like I said, I appreciate the input and encouragement. I believe I have made my decision. YOU CAN'T BEAT THOSE PRICES! That's what I'm most excited about.
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Thu Feb 21, 2008 2:02 pm |
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JorickF

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Staggs are probably one of the best beginner cymbals you can get. They're cheap and seriously, they are VERY durable. I don't play any metal at all, but Stagg crashes would definitely be perfect for it.
The hats? Nothing special, but really decent for the price.
The ride? Cheap and decent. The sound is nice and versatile. Only it isn't very loud so it may drown between your cymbals when miced.
The spashes? Great.
China? The cheapest decent ones you can get.
Overall, get Stagg if your budget isn't big enough and don't upgrade until you can get the high-end series of the bigger brands.
PS: I'm talking about DH here.
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Sat Mar 15, 2008 9:54 am |
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scottydont

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i got 3 chinas and they're all stagg. i love them
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Sun Mar 16, 2008 7:26 pm |
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Fraz_whatley

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I got 2 black metal splashes today and my god are they amazing
the sound is unreal so powerful and just simply amazing. go try some out if you can i can safely say you will love it
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Thu Mar 20, 2008 1:02 pm |
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Dillanm

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I've only played a few Stagg cymbals but for what I've heard from them, they're very good.
Cymbals played :
16" SH China - Great response, loud, explosive
14" SH Medium Crash - Loud, pronounced, one of the best crashes I've played.
8" SH Splash - Sharp, great for accenting.
There's my 2 cents.
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Mon Mar 31, 2008 4:37 am |
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LouDaGr8

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and the SH is there entry level stuff
next step up is DH (double hammered) then your looking at things like the furia range
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Mon Mar 31, 2008 5:53 am |
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Dillanm

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For entry level, SH is pretty good, the Chinas are brilliant.
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Mon Mar 31, 2008 9:01 am |
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Rob Crisp

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I've heard Stagg are good but at the same time haven't played any.
My fave drum shop has actually got rid of Sabian and brought in Stagg and Turkish.
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Sat Apr 05, 2008 12:20 am |
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yeahaa

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 stagg
I really love stagg cymbals!
I've switch from sabian to stagg
The prices are unbelievable.
I just bought a DH 14inch China and I really like it.The best china I ever use.Better than any zildjian's and sabian's.
For those who are planning to buy any zbts or B8 cymbals,I would recommend you guys to buy stagg instead.
Stagg is the best cymbal maker,will be the next rival for zildjian and sabian.
just visit www.staggmusic.com for more info
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Fri Apr 18, 2008 5:02 am |
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Fraz_whatley

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 Re: stagg
yeahaa wrote:I really love stagg cymbals!
I've switch from sabian to stagg
The prices are unbelievable.
I just bought a DH 14inch China and I really like it.The best china I ever use.Better than any zildjian's and sabian's.
For those who are planning to buy any zbts or B8 cymbals,I would recommend you guys to buy stagg instead.
Stagg is the best cymbal maker,will be the next rival for zildjian and sabian.
just visit www.staggmusic.com for more info
lets hope they dont get bigheaded and boost theyre awesome prices
the only problem with stagg is that i have run out of cymbals that i need to buy, ive had a sort of cymbal buying block
i suppose i could buy every stagg cymbal haha
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Fri Apr 18, 2008 11:18 am |
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SlackBackLazy

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Black Metals are great, I have a 14" crash, and its sounds sooo harsh, btw, are Stagg and Saluda cymbals the same?
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Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:22 pm |
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SlackBackLazy wrote:Black Metals are great, I have a 14" crash, and its sounds sooo harsh, btw, are Stagg and Saluda cymbals the same?
No.
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Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:15 pm |
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SlackBackLazy

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Ok, I was just wandering why someone posted pictures of Saludas then
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Tue Apr 29, 2008 11:45 am |
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sjoey1r

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The black metal bells are brilliant.
nice tones with a decent price tag!
If you ask me there effects cymbals (chinas, splashes etc...)
Are SUPERB. absolutely love mine!
Very trashy!
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Sun May 11, 2008 2:04 pm |
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SlackBackLazy

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nice, i was thinking about getting a stagg china, how much are they?
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Mon May 12, 2008 9:04 am |
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Tazdrummer wrote:Howepirate wrote:Tazdrummer wrote:I wouldn't mind hearing some reviews on the black metal bells.
I am probably getting one in the next few months but wouldn't mind hearing someones first hand opinion.
I have one, great bell sound.
Sounds deeper than it looks and isn't nearly as pingy and overbearing as the Zil-Bel. I have them both on my kit and they tend to work pretty well together.
Modern Drummer gave them a great review.
Once I get my hats I think the next cymbal purchase (or the one after that) will be either the black metal bell or possibly one of these Saluda prototype bells I saw in PDF...

I have the saluda 6.5 and the 7 together w/ my paiste accent 4" and 8" I have it all covered. The saludas have a beautiful ring. sometimes if I hit them together to hard and the song is soft I have to reach up and choke them but rarely.
Love Saludas v-bells
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Tue Sep 02, 2008 6:59 pm |
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AmnestysLowEnd

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I played a Stagg bell and almost bought it but then I realized it had a pretty nice crack in the middle oddly enough it didn't go all the way threw the cymbal and it was brand new!
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Tue Sep 02, 2008 9:13 pm |
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Mike_Drums

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AmnestysLowEnd wrote:I played a Stagg bell and almost bought it but then I realized it had a pretty nice crack in the middle oddly enough it didn't go all the way threw the cymbal and it was brand new!
are you sure it was a crack? i have mistaken a deep tonal groove for a crack
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