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Shalaq

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 China placement- normal or upside-down?
I play it bells-down, but just wondering what you think on the subject. I see many jazz drummers playing chinas bells-up. How do you hang your china?
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anavrinIV

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i play it so the lip is at the same angle as a crash would be, so i guess thats bell down. i doit not only because its much easier to hit but theres less chance of breaking it too.
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drumsetsteve

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Bell side down--I get a better sound from my 17" K-zildjian.
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Fri Sep 15, 2006 1:39 pm |
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druminzeetobaccofade

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 china placement-normal or upside down
I have two chinas in my set up and both of them are placed upside down, or bell side down and cranked down tight with some extra felts. I think that by doing this, it gives the cymbals a crushing attack with quicker shut off, and exposes the cymbal edge to get a better sticking approach to the cymbal, hope that helped.
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Fri Sep 15, 2006 3:48 pm |
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wolfsburg6674

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i havent had a china for bout a year now cause my wuhan cracked but i did play it bell down....i tried the other way but found my sticks breaking more frequently and the sound didnt seem to project as well
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Fri Sep 15, 2006 4:17 pm |
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loop

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I also play my chinas bell-down. It's easier to hit'em and they sound better in my opinion
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Sat Sep 16, 2006 3:22 am |
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Animal

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Qbs

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isn't the cymbal more likely to crack when it's positioned bell-up?
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Tue Sep 19, 2006 6:32 am |
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Animal

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grimey mike

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i play bell down too, the weird thing is on my china it has the logo and stuff on the side i have facing down... why would they put it that side if its supposed to be facing the other way!? but i just prefer it bell down!
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Qbs

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Animal wrote:Qbs wrote:isn't the cymbal more likely to crack when it's positioned bell-up?
I would think so, allthough I never really tried it. 
me too
my china (actually it's a swish) is too good to experiment on it
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Thu Sep 21, 2006 5:59 am |
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wg93081

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I play with bells down, but when I stack my 14' and 12' they have their bells up! Think Portnoy MAX Stax!
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Thu Sep 21, 2006 3:06 pm |
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disrupt13

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wolfsburg6674 wrote:i havent had a china for bout a year now cause my wuhan cracked but i did play it bell down....i tried the other way but found my sticks breaking more frequently and the sound didnt seem to project as well
wuhans arent very sturdy, they are just for people who are like hey, i want a cheap cymbal that sounds decent for $12,
if that sounded cocky, it wasnt meant to be, for $12 though you cant beat it
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Wed Oct 04, 2006 1:34 pm |
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Shaggy

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Yeah, I have two Wuhan Chinas. A 12" and an 18". I play both bell down, and the guy above me is correct. Wuhans are for people who want a decent cymbal really freaking cheap.
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Wed Oct 04, 2006 5:53 pm |
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screamkevin

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 Re: china placement-normal or upside down
druminzeetobaccofade wrote:I have two chinas in my set up and both of them are placed upside down, or bell side down and cranked down tight with some extra felts. I think that by doing this, it gives the cymbals a crushing attack with quicker shut off, and exposes the cymbal edge to get a better sticking approach to the cymbal, hope that helped.
You should really invest in some cymbal springs and stop cranking the chinas down. They need room to move with the striking action of you hitting the cymbal, or you'll crack it. One of the disadvantages of Wuhan and Saluda is that the cymbal bell is a cylinder, so you really can't put a cymbal spring on it.
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