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tapeworm97

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 fill timing
okay ive noticed that whenever i play my own songs with my band i try makin fills, which i can ,but the problem is i dont really know WHEN to start filling. keep in mind i mostly do the single stroke fills at about 200 BPM that you see alot in blast beats.
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SGarrett

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Where ever you want.
No, seriously. Start your fill on "a" of 1 if it fits properly. Listen to Stone Sour "Made Of Scars" and check all of the different places he starts his fills.
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So Is The Drummer

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i just hope if youre doing fills at 200 bpm that the rest of the song is also that tempo.
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So Is The Drummer

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haha yea that would work too
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SGarrett

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I'm a big fan of half-time fills.
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lozza23_uk

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big fan of triplet fills as well. if thats what they are called (a non edumucated drummer here!)
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J-rod

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i like fills to be abstracts and not really restricted by any strict rhythmic figures or tempos. i play as many or as few notes as i feel at the time and just fill whatever amount of time i want, as long as you come out of your fill at the right time, you can make just about anything work for you. Of course i play very free form experimental music most of the time so my style of fill is def not the way to go for a lot of genres. Just do what works for you, thats the best advice i can give, dont try to do more than your capable of, and most importantly, fills aren't for showing off, always play for the song.
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40th

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most square music starts a fill on beat one or 3...depending on the phrasing of music. I know most of the sheetmusic I have been reading is very right on 1 or 3. 4 beat fill or a 2 beat fill.
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antiunderscores

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i love fills that arent rolls, cause they just add another element, like if u werent a drummer and heard a roll you would think "cool a roll" but if they heard some fill that had a pattern to it its like the drummer's suddenly playing the melody, i find its not as over bearing on the song, and way more interesting, but hey, thats just me...
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eml

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I start all my fills on 1 or 3, sometimes on the 'a' after 1 or 3. That's in 4/4 songs though, I have no idea where I play them in 6/8.
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40th

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eml wrote:I start all my fills on 1 or 3, sometimes on the 'a' after 1 or 3. That's in 4/4 songs though, I have no idea where I play them in 6/8. 
6/8: 1 or 4 in that case.
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Alan_

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I don't really like the concept of beat/fill/beat. I prefer to think of it as one continuous thing that ebbs and flows. If you think of a fill as an embellishment of what's already going on, you'll have a better concept as far as placement and where to start/end.
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drumur

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Be aware of the the implied 1/4 note pulse
keep time with your hi hat foot
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SGarrett

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Alan_ wrote:I don't really like the concept of beat/fill/beat. I prefer to think of it as one continuous thing that ebbs and flows. If you think of a fill as an embellishment of what's already going on, you'll have a better concept as far as placement and where to start/end.
That's what I usually do. More often than not, the fill that fits the best is usually very straight forward.
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