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Zatan

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 Fixing inverted china cymbals...?
I have a slight problem. I recently inverted one of my china cymbals (16") in a way that there is no curve on it anymore; sort of looking like a bronze pancake.
One rather hard and snappy strike on the apex of the curve caused the curve to fold and fall in...
Has anyone had a similar problem, and if so, were you able to fix it and how...?
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Sun May 06, 2007 12:30 pm |
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drumsforlife

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I've heard of inverting chinas by putting them upside down on the stand, but I didn't think inverting them meant actually changing the cymbal itself. I have my china inverted BTW.
So a flat pancake, eh...
try pliers to bend the curve back. who knows? it may snap back. IDK. If not, use pliers and put a wavy curve in, and have a new sound!
Oh, how did this happen?
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Zatan

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drumsforlife wrote:I've heard of inverting chinas by putting them upside down on the stand, but I didn't think inverting them meant actually changing the cymbal itself. I have my china inverted BTW.
So a flat pancake, eh...
try pliers to bend the curve back. who knows? it may snap back. IDK. If not, use pliers and put a wavy curve in, and have a new sound!
Oh, how did this happen?
I hit it with one snappy strike. It now sounds like a piece of corrugated iron...
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drumsforlife

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eeeeeew. like the sound or not? well I'm guessing not. Step on it or something! One of my cymbals flipped through one time and I remember fixing it by standing on it. I hope that helps!
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iatemygoat

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m really confused as to how you did this. did you have the china set up with the curve going up or down?
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Tue May 08, 2007 7:57 am |
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Zatan

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Curve going up. Hit the curve, the curve folded... A friend of mine suggested dipping it in ice cold water followed by hot water then cold water again... All I got from doing that was a wet cymbal. Standing on it hasn't worked yet, maybe I need a fatter guy to step on it... I'm a step from grabbing my saw or drill or something. See what sort of sounds I can come up with in the process
Still, If anyone has an idea of how to fix this...........
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Tue May 08, 2007 8:47 am |
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drummert2k

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well, even if you do get it back to normal it will still be warped. but luckily its a china and they're make to sound trashy. but china's have that flared out shoulder for a reason...... its where the strength is. i know a lot of people play their chinas inverted like that for some reason, but hitting it on a weak edge which isnt really ment to be hit will result in bends and warps and stuff.
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Tue May 08, 2007 4:44 pm |
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iatemygoat

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drummert2k wrote:well, even if you do get it back to normal it will still be warped. but luckily its a china and they're make to sound trashy. but china's have that flared out shoulder for a reason...... its where the strength is. i know a lot of people play their chinas inverted like that for some reason, but hitting it on a weak edge which isnt really ment to be hit will result in bends and warps and stuff.
agreed. ive never even seen someone with a china set up like that.
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Tue May 08, 2007 5:13 pm |
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Zatan

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I've deceided to make a wall-clock out of the damn thing.
I've spoken with my retailer who said it was a defect in the metal that caused this. Offered me a new one. But since I'm now bent on the idea on making a clock and already have two chinas in mint condition I think I'll keep the little retard...
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Wed May 09, 2007 1:25 am |
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FelterSkelter

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Zatan wrote:I've deceided to make a wall-clock out of the damn thing.
I've spoken with my retailer who said it was a defect in the metal that caused this. Offered me a new one. But since I'm now bent on the idea on making a clock and already have two chinas in mint condition I think I'll keep the little retard...
Right on. It will help you keep time.
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Wed May 09, 2007 4:42 am |
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iatemygoat

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FelterSkelter wrote:Zatan wrote:I've deceided to make a wall-clock out of the damn thing.
I've spoken with my retailer who said it was a defect in the metal that caused this. Offered me a new one. But since I'm now bent on the idea on making a clock and already have two chinas in mint condition I think I'll keep the little retard...
Right on. It will help you keep time. 
hahahaha
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Howepirate

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www.drumgearonline.com
Order a new one from saluda and send your old one in for credit towards your new china.
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Wed May 09, 2007 8:51 am |
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FelterSkelter

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Howepirate wrote:www.drumgearonline.com
Order a new one from saluda and send your old one in for credit towards your new china.
You can do that? It doesn't matter how badly damaged or what brand?
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Howepirate

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FelterSkelter wrote:Howepirate wrote:www.drumgearonline.com
Order a new one from saluda and send your old one in for credit towards your new china.
You can do that? It doesn't matter how badly damaged or what brand?
I dont believe theres a limit to how trashed the cymbals are because they do a recycling service.
Check out the prices on the saludas anywayz THEYRE DIRT CHEAP compared to the big 3
and sound like the big 3 too
i love my 19" earthworks crash!!!!!!!!
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Wed May 09, 2007 10:57 am |
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FelterSkelter

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Howepirate wrote:FelterSkelter wrote:Howepirate wrote:www.drumgearonline.com
Order a new one from saluda and send your old one in for credit towards your new china.
You can do that? It doesn't matter how badly damaged or what brand?
I dont believe theres a limit to how trashed the cymbals are because they do a recycling service.
Check out the prices on the saludas anywayz THEYRE DIRT CHEAP compared to the big 3
and sound like the big 3 too
i love my 19" earthworks crash!!!!!!!!
What kind of discount do they give you? I'm sure it depends on the size but just a rough estimate.
I liked the way the Earthworks looks but I have no way to play these cymbals to check 'em out. No stores around here carry them so it's hard to get an idea what they sound like. I know there are several big fans/endorsees on this site and don't doubt their judgement for a second...I just wonder if they're right for me.
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