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so i got an emad for my bass drum thinking it would be the perfect head for triggering. put it on, stick my trigger on the bass drum and the plastic ring on the emad head is too close to the edge so the trigger sensor doesnt sit flat on the drumhead.
so i cut a bit of ring off where the trigger sits so it will sit flat. start playing and now im getting masssssssive double triggering. changed back to my superkick II and the trigger is still acting up. this is the 3rd fuckin ddrum trigger ive had(had to exchange them) that has messed up. im not pressing them to hard onto the head, my settings on the module stay the same. seems the triggers only last a few weeks and then theyre shit again. im frustrated. Sad







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What are your threshold and sensitivity settings?









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when your triggering you could have a crap head on thats been sitting in your attick for 20 yeads. as long as the trigger can pick up the head, it doesnt matter what kind of head you got on it. the trigger picks up the signal, not the tone.







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well, I could see where an Emad would be problematic; the dampening ring area does interfere with most trigger designs.
But once you've got decent contact with the head, it should be OK.
Is the head really loose? I found I had to tighten mine a good bit so there weren't extraneous resonances and vibrations causing double-triggering.

I haven't used those models, but have had success with the Roland units.









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yeah, im aware of that i didnt spend the 300 for a dm5 to pick up my acoustic bass drums tone., ive been triggering for a while. i switched to an emad because i figured the extrernal damping ring would help control vibrations and help get rid of misfires. .


i tried tightening the bass head up more than i usually do and its still messing up. these ddrum triggers dont last more than a month it seems. i k now afew other drummers who have had to buy 2 or 3 and then switched to roland and havent been happier.

im using the ddrum pro bass drum trigger. im going to get guitar center to order the roland trigger and let me pay the difference since this ones still under warranty.









Last edited by writheindecay on Tue Jun 26, 2007 11:58 am; edited 1 time in total
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writheindecay wrote:
yeah, im aware of that i didnt spend the 300 for a dm5 to pick up my acoustic bass drums tone., ive been triggering for a while. i switched to an emad because i figured the extrernal damping ring would help control vibrations and help get rid of misfires.


im using the ddrum pro bass drum trigger.


pack pillows to firm up the batter and you should be golden







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drummert2k wrote:
writheindecay wrote:
yeah, im aware of that i didnt spend the 300 for a dm5 to pick up my acoustic bass drums tone., ive been triggering for a while. i switched to an emad because i figured the extrernal damping ring would help control vibrations and help get rid of misfires.


im using the ddrum pro bass drum trigger.


pack pillows to firm up the batter and you should be golden



ive never had a problem with having nothing in my bass drum before.







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what symptoms is it causing?
missed triggers? Multiple unwanted triggers?








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m wrote:
what symptoms is it causing?
missed triggers? Multiple unwanted triggers?


wel,, the trigger was working fine last band practice. last night i sat down to play, and it either wont fire at all, or it will do 3 or 4 for 1. if i set my gain any lower than 90, you could hit it with a baseball bat and it wouldnt trigger.







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I had this exact problem in the studio. The solution? Had to take a razor and cut out the ring where the trigger would go. Lost no tone whatsoever, and the triggers worked fine.








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its becouse your using triggers on a head they do that I triied every trigger under the sun and just gave up. After giving up about a month ago I find these axis triggers from two of the members on this board. that looks like the way to go but they look like they only work on axis pedals. Im currently working on a design that will work on other pedals.







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its becouse your using triggers on a head they do that I triied every trigger under the sun and just gave up. After giving up about a month ago I find these axis triggers from two of the members on this board. that looks like the way to go but they look like they only work on axis pedals. Im currently working on a design that will work on other pedals.


Yeh there called Axis E-Kit triggers and i can't wait to get them


Axis Ftw








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well i like my dw5000s better than i did m y axis a2s so ekits are a no go.

ddrum is sending me a replacement. but ive got 3 shows this weekend, so it wont do any good when it shows up next week.







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Here's what you do:

Get rid of that Emad, because that fucking ring is a pain in the ass.

Then, set up your Noise and crosstalk to about 60ish (play with it until you get it right on), and your velocity cruve to the max (7 I believe). There is another setting that I forgot the name of, I set that to about 4 (it controls how wide the time between retriggers is). Then, get a pillow or a blanket and stuff the kick drum, make sure that the head CAN'T ring by itself. If you do this with a DDrum trigger, it will work flawlessly, no double triggers, no false triggers when you hit the snare, nothing but pure accurate triggering.








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i switched back to a super kick II, which is what i was using before, and the trigger is still acting up. they usually work pretty good for about 3 or 4 weeks and then they crap out on me.

ive never had to stuff my bass drum before to make my trigger work right, and im not starting now, i play in a 2nd, non metal band, and i dont use the trigger for that one, so ive gotta have a good bass drum sound for that one.











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