Alright so im looking around for a new kit and i have narrowed it down to a few but i am open to sugestions
(around 1,300 is max and if just shells like 1000 since hardwhare is like 300).
I want about 4-5 peice nothing to big(for some reason i have a attatchment to the 1 up and 1/2 down set up).
I was thinking either the-

-DDrum Dominon Ash Pocket(actualy any of the ddrum dominion)
i have no experiance with ddrum or ash kits.

-PDP 805 normal or the 24" bass drum
i actualy got to play this at GC and i love it but i just wanted to hear
some other peoples experiances and opinions.


thanks ahead, paco.

umm I would look at some other kits in your price range aswell. Look at tama starclassics on Ebay, Pearl Sessions are in your price range, PDP LX's are way better then the 805, Grectsh Renown maples are great too. Even Mapex M pro or M birch will be way better then the PDP 805, IMO.

The DDrums are neat the ony thing I have heard/ seen bad about them is their bearing edges are a little un even making tunning a pain.








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thanks, though me being a newer person to the world of drumming what are "bearing edges"?
yeah though i think the snare on the 805 kicks ass though, any recomended type of wood?
to my knowlage, ash is loud, mapel is tone(studio), and birtch is kinda everything?

i really like the 805's...








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thanks, though me being a newer person to the world of drumming what are "bearing edges"?
yeah though i think the snare on the 805 kicks ass though, any recomended type of wood?
to my knowlage, ash is loud, mapel is tone(studio), and birtch is kinda everything?

birch is more studio sound. its fat, deep and has a lot of low end punch.

maple is loud and usually used live. its mid range, has good highs and lows.

ash is, well i have never played ash....








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yeah i liked the 805's at guitar center and its always easyer to buy somthing once youve played it.
ugh i hate buying stuff i just wana get it and play it lol.

the 805's are birch. i say play around on many different sets with different types of woods to see what you like best. than make your decisions based on what type of wood and such. look at all the companies and decide what you like best. i prefer maple but thats just one person's input.








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As a former drum salesman I highly recommend you slow your roll with this. Don't pick a kit because you're in a hurry to buy because that's one of the best ways to end up with buyer's remorse.

The bearing edge is where the head makes contact with the drum shell. If that's uneven the drum will be a complete pain in the ass to tune, if it tunes correctly at all.

What type of wood you get really doesn't matter that much. According to a recent article in Modern Drummer wood makes up 10% of the over-all sound. Head selection, tuning, and how you play your drums make up the other 90%.

That said, EOTE got maple and birch correct where ash is a very warm and resonant wood. If you put the kits together with the same heads and same tuning your inexperienced ears still won't be able to tell the difference. They'll all sound like drums.








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lol thanks for the clarification.
so is there a problem with the bearing edges on the DDrum kits or
is it just on the lower-end like the diablo and stuff?

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According to a recent article in Modern Drummer wood makes up 10% of the over-all sound. Head selection, tuning, and how you play your drums make up the other 90%.

that sounds right.

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lol thanks for the clarification.
so is there a problem with the bearing edges on the DDrum kits or
is it just on the lower-end like the diablo and stuff?

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According to a recent article in Modern Drummer wood makes up 10% of the over-all sound. Head selection, tuning, and how you play your drums make up the other 90%.

that sounds right.

It can happen with any commercial kit, or even custom kits for that matter! Although most custom companies wouldn't have such audacity to make crappy drums, just solid, overpriced ones

The best way to be sure that they are cut to near perfection is to find the kit you want to buy or are thinking about buying, and physically check if the bearing edges are cut correctly. This can be done by placing the drum on a flat surface such as a glass table or a linoleum, with the hoop and head of the drum removed, and by then shining a flashlight on the inside of the drum shell. Peer out on the edges contacting the surface of the floor, and see if you can see light shining through, if so, the bearing edges are not cut to a good degree of perfection.
Now this may sound stingy to some, but in all honesty it is a good and fair action to take to really make sure you are getting your money's worth. Think about it, if you were to spend 850 dollars on a kit alone, then found out later it wasn't even made correctly, how would you feel? Not very good I imagine :








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yeah ill make sure to do that when i go to buy it. i just need to pick one out first.

I played an all-maple Ddrum (not sure if that's Dominion, but I think it is) and I must say, it had a kickass 24" kick drum (huge, deep boom). Yet it still had the Ddrum heads on it, which made the kit sound as cheap as a pearl forum in my opinion. I also got to temporarily change the head of the snare to a Remo ambassador and tune it, but I didn't really like the sound of it.

However, if you put enough effort in tuning, you could probably get a great sound out of it. I wasn't too convinced though.

i dislike the ddrums... they seem to have a lot of faults

go with TAMA PDP Peal Yamaha or Premier... maybe mapex








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For the same price I'd always go with a better quality used kit than a lower quality new. You can buy a REALLY nice used set for $1300.00. High end Premiers, Yamaha's, even a newer Taye studio maple kit.

ddrum Dominion Ash kit's are high quality drums. The ash adds warmth and a nice tonal colour to the maple. I know a few people that are quite happy with their ddrum's.

Also take a look at Mapex Pro M's. There's quite a few happy Mapex owners on this board.

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