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brokenstix

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 I need a challange.
As I am i really need a challenge in drumming. Ive learned techniques like jazz, swing, blues and latin (along with rock duh). I need a song with lots of fills and beats to learn to challange myself and get better. I need a song lke Toxicity by System Of A Down (ive already learned that song). Something to challange me. Any suggestions?
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drummert2k

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Festival De Ritmo - Dave Weckyl. and then after you learn it you can teach me! I've really wanted to learn this because i love how it flows but i've tried this song a few times and got frustrated and gave up.
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Mon Apr 16, 2007 7:05 pm |
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Howepirate

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Eradication by All Shall Perish for a real challenge
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Mon Apr 16, 2007 7:21 pm |
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screamkevin

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"War" by Meshuggah.
For reference, this video is homemade by some kids, but the song is "War" by Meshuggah: http://youtube.com/watch?v=L7q1ke35DNQ
Okay, that's not fair. It's a drum machine.
But still, it's a monster drum part. What you are expressing is way too vague. Are you looking for more speed? Play some death/black metal. Improving your odd time playing? Try some fusion jazz, or prog metal. Wanna get a fat pocket? Listen to funk, Motown, and R&B. If you're looking for more explosive chops, get videos from cats like Mangini, Rabb, Weckl, Lang, and Donati.
Basically, listen to and practice to anything you can get your hands on. The more you expand what you're listening to, the more stuff you can add to your drumming "toolbox" and apply to your music.
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mortem

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Location: Monterrey, Mexico
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screamkevin wrote:"War" by Meshuggah.
Hahaha word! Basically anything by Meshuggah is quiiiiiiite hard  Try Concatenation (Remix) by Meshuggah as well.. it's one of their easiest
also, try look for the duo song by Fredrik Thordendal and Morgan Agren named Sol Niger Within (a medley from Thordendal's project Special Defects)
there are 1000000000^infinity songs out there harder than Toxicity, bro. good luck
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cesarjosecatalan

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 Re: I need a challange.
brokenstix wrote:As I am i really need a challenge in drumming. Ive learned techniques like jazz, swing, blues and latin (along with rock duh). I need a song with lots of fills and beats to learn to challange myself and get better. I need a song lke Toxicity by System Of A Down (ive already learned that song). Something to challange me. Any suggestions?
Ideas:
ART BLAKEY AND THE JAZZ MESSENGERS
DAVE WECKLE'S MASTER PLAN
BILLY COBHAM'S
SPIN DOCTORS
STEVE SMITH'S DRUM PLAYING VIDEO EXERCISES.
TRY PLAYING AS A LEFTHANDED IF RIGHTHANDED or VICEVERSA.
good luck.
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Tue Apr 17, 2007 11:52 am |
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cesarjosecatalan

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 Re: I need a challange.
cesarjosecatalan wrote:brokenstix wrote:As I am i really need a challenge in drumming. Ive learned techniques like jazz, swing, blues and latin (along with rock duh). I need a song with lots of fills and beats to learn to challange myself and get better. I need a song lke Toxicity by System Of A Down (ive already learned that song). Something to challange me. Any suggestions?
Ideas:
ART BLAKEY AND THE JAZZ MESSENGERS
DAVE WECKLE'S MASTER PLAN
BILLY COBHAM'S
SPIN DOCTORS
STEVE SMITH'S DRUM PLAYING VIDEO EXERCISES.
TRY PLAYING AS A LEFTHANDED IF RIGHTHANDED or VICEVERSA.
good luck.
You should also try simple rithms but using ONLY ONE HAND. later may be combine it with and extra work for the "free" hand.
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Tue Apr 17, 2007 11:54 am |
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anavrinIV

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stream of concsiousness...goes from simple to the most complicated 2 minutes of drumming i can easily remember.
oh, its by dream theater off the cd train of thought.
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Tue Apr 17, 2007 12:15 pm |
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MrBojengles

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yah most of nething prog rockish will be good at ur point. dream theater is excelent example.. otherwise kamelot or symphony x have nice beats that fit in well with the songs. especially symphxs inferno.
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Tue Apr 17, 2007 1:39 pm |
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funkengrooven

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Any Red Hot Chilli Peppers stuff would be good for ya. Work your way through Blood Sugar Sex Magik for starters. The actual notes aren't that hard but making it groove like Chad is the challenge.
Seconded on the Spin Doctors, too. Get your groove on!
If you want a real challenge... what about Loud Jazz by John Scofield with Dennis Chambers on drums?
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Tue Apr 17, 2007 3:03 pm |
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drum man

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Any Tool would be a very hard. Danny Carry uses plenty of fills and he's timeing is amazing and creativty is off the wall amazing. Vicarious in praticular is a good one to try and learn. I tryed and gave up on it.
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Wed Apr 18, 2007 2:18 pm |
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chachaman02

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Want a challenge? Try ANY necrophagist song. come back and tell me when u can play them.
go to myspace.com/necrophagist and check them out.
I can bet some good money that this will challenge u. Also, check out Nile.
If this doesn't challenge u, you are either a really drummer, or a really good liar. hope u have fun
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Wed Apr 18, 2007 7:27 pm |
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drumr4life509

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Location: North Carolina, USA
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chachaman02 wrote:Want a challenge? Try ANY necrophagist song. come back and tell me when u can play them.
go to myspace.com/necrophagist and check them out.
I can bet some good money that this will challenge u. Also, check out Nile.
If this doesn't challenge u, you are either a really drummer, or a really good liar. hope u have fun 
i agree george kollias of nile will put your stamina and speed to the test any day
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seneca

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I would definantly say look into Proressive rock/metal. Dream Theater, Liquid Tension, Rush.
Also, try listening to funk!!! There's certian beats that sound simple, yet when played will have a totally difference feel. Also, funk will teach you and help you develop your personal "Groove"
Good luck!
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mikebodrums

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Location: amarillo tx
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led zeppelin....try some of the foot work and bonham throws down some sick beats...
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