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MrChops

beginner
Posts: 36
Joined: 08 Nov 2006
Location: Detroit, Michigan
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 Lessons or self-taught?
Im just curious as to wheter you guys prefer lessons or being self-taught.
I am self taught and have been playing roughly 14 years and am extremely happy with the level that I am at. It just doesn't make sense to me to take lessons. Besides ... im broke and can't afford them even if I wanted to.
_________________ Amateurs practice until they can get it right.
Professionals practice until they can't get it wrong.
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Thu Nov 09, 2006 11:26 am |
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Dale

session drummer
Posts: 537
Joined: 03 Oct 2006
Location: Aus
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Both. I still take lessons. I also teach drums and percussion.
_________________ I don't know what I'm talking about!
"Don't play FOR people. Play WITH people."
- Papa Jo Jones
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Thu Nov 09, 2006 11:34 am |
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Dale

session drummer
Posts: 537
Joined: 03 Oct 2006
Location: Aus
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MrChops, if you can, try to find Louis Bellson's book on how to read music. That way, even if you can't afford lessons, you can get things out of the exercises in magazines and books. If you want to be serious and have a career, it makes a lot of sense to learn to read. It's not hard.
_________________ I don't know what I'm talking about!
"Don't play FOR people. Play WITH people."
- Papa Jo Jones
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Thu Nov 09, 2006 11:37 am |
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MrChops

beginner
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Joined: 08 Nov 2006
Location: Detroit, Michigan
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Dale wrote:MrChops, if you can, try to find Louis Bellson's book on how to read music. That way, even if you can't afford lessons, you can get things out of the exercises in magazines and books. If you want to be serious and have a career, it makes a lot of sense to learn to read. It's not hard.
I can read music. Rather well, I was basically just seeing what everyone else's point of view on whether or not they prefer to take lessons.
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Professionals practice until they can't get it wrong.
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Thu Nov 09, 2006 12:39 pm |
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Dale

session drummer
Posts: 537
Joined: 03 Oct 2006
Location: Aus
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MrChops wrote:Dale wrote:MrChops, if you can, try to find Louis Bellson's book on how to read music. That way, even if you can't afford lessons, you can get things out of the exercises in magazines and books. If you want to be serious and have a career, it makes a lot of sense to learn to read. It's not hard.
I can read music. Rather well, I was basically just seeing what everyone else's point of view on whether or not they prefer to take lessons.
Cool. That makes it easier then.
_________________ I don't know what I'm talking about!
"Don't play FOR people. Play WITH people."
- Papa Jo Jones
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Thu Nov 09, 2006 12:52 pm |
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floydistheman789

drumming adept
Posts: 54
Joined: 24 Oct 2006
Location: Rhode Island
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self taught, theres something about taking lessons i dont like, im not sure what it is, but i dont like it, ive been playing for 11 years, and im happy with where i am.
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Thu Nov 09, 2006 3:14 pm |
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RockTheArt

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Joined: 09 Nov 2006
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i was taught some basic rythems form my dad when i was just starting and ive pretty much just built off of that ever since.... it seemed to work for me, although im not to happy about my current skill lvl... sigh... im ganna go practice.....
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Thu Nov 09, 2006 3:24 pm |
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youngdrummer

beginner
Posts: 37
Joined: 12 Oct 2006
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Lessons 100%
The best sure-fire way to improve is to study with a professional.
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Thu Nov 09, 2006 3:40 pm |
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cumndrum

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Joined: 04 Nov 2006
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i took lessons when i was little now im mostly self taught but i started taking lessons again and if u like ur teacher then its really a lot of fun cuz i always thought i would hate it but i think its worth it. theres a lot of little things to learn that u dont really think about that i think are worth experimenting with.
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Thu Nov 09, 2006 3:43 pm |
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trowa012000

beginner
Posts: 18
Joined: 08 Aug 2006
Location: Denver, CO
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I took one lesson and Loved my teacher, but he never called back to reschedule, so I never went back. But 10 years later, I'm still happy with the level I'm at even though I only had one lesson.
_________________ So many drums, So little time.
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Thu Nov 09, 2006 4:04 pm |
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elchris2k6

beginner
Posts: 28
Joined: 07 Nov 2006
Location: Culpeper VA
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Ive been playing for 2 years now self taught, and i like the level im at, i would love to take lessons but its hard to find where im at, i saw what you posted dale, i think im gonna purchase that book
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Thu Nov 09, 2006 4:51 pm |
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hitadrum

new
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Joined: 09 Nov 2006
Location: Detroit
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Both. Is there really such a thing as self taught? We are all influenced by other people, no man is an island. We all learn from others weather we copy licks from a CD or a drum teacher. I think it's a matter of wich way is most effective. I personally believe that learning from a teacher has the best advantages. And no, personal lessons does not limit ones creativity. You were born a unique individual and nothing can take that away. Rudiment and excersizes give you a drum vocabulary so that you can express your musical thoughts better. It's like learining new words so that you can express your thoughts more effectively when you talk. That's what the rudiments are, the vocabulary of drumming. We ALL play them.
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Thu Nov 09, 2006 5:25 pm |
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Chad Scott

beginner
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Joined: 10 Oct 2006
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I think lessons will teach you the rudiments & reading that most drummers need to become better faster--I'm not knocking a self taught, because I am self taught--I just wish that I would have learned the basics first..After 12 years of playing I finally learned how to read on my own & am learning advanced stick control, tricks and off time accenting. I really wish I would have done all this way back when! Working out all the stuff that isn't fun in the begining will advance your playing--learning how to read well will make it easier to get paying gigs & studio work! I did like the fact that I self taught myself but I think I would have gone farther faster with help!
_________________ just another drummer who wants to become better,learn more and play more than most..
if you can help please do!!
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Thu Nov 09, 2006 5:39 pm |
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quikstang2

drumming adept
Posts: 238
Joined: 25 Sep 2006
Location: Pompano Beach, FL
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I've been playing about 9 years. I took lessons from a couple guys for about the first 3 years and my teacher basically showed me how to teach myself how to play new stuff so I've been self taught ever since then.
I do watch every instructional video possible and get as many tips as possible when people are talking. There's always something new to learn. Everyone does everything a little differently and you never know when your way might not work in a situation but somebody else's way (which you probably hate) works much easier. If I had the time and money I'd like to take a few lessons again just to make sure my technique is right and learn a couple things I can't seem to get by watching videos.
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Thu Nov 09, 2006 6:26 pm |
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mortem

drumming adept
Posts: 331
Joined: 07 Nov 2006
Location: Monterrey, Mexico
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Hey guys, first time here! hehe
Well, I'm a self-taught drummer and damn proud about it!  But I do consider that lessons are *very* useful. You have to combine both.. it's not a good idea to either stick with only lessons, or only self-teaching. I think that you need both the "natural groove/feeling" built by playing on your own, and the technical skills learned from taking lessons.
I just recently began taking lessons (after 5.5 years of self-taught drumming) and I did find it very very helpful. So.. I'd like to encourage all self-taught drummers out there to look for a pro drummer for some lessons.. this will bring great improvements to your playing!
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-Charlie Parker
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