ok this is gonna be a difficult question cause I'm not really sure how to word it so you can understand. Uh...but here goes...

so I like the look of having your first tom level with your snare drum. I've never played it but I imagine it would be better for me to play because during fills I always manage to hit the rim of my tom...(-_-) somehow.
so I guess what kinda hardware, thats not a drumrack because I think those are tacky, would allow me to do that? Is it the type of drumset, I have a pearl forum...

yeaaa, I dunno.

thanks.
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I think it's a good idea to experiment with different kit setups and layouts. I've done this, with the toms at the same height as the snare (like floor toms usually are) and it can be a really good feel. Transitions from the snare to the tom and back can feel a bit smoother, but depending on the size of the tom you may have to stretch a little further to reach its sweet spot. I think that's why most folks raise them and tilt them in a bit, they end up closer to you. But if your toms aren't too big, you may find they work fine on the same plane as the snare and floor toms.

Basically, you'd just need a tom or cymbal stand that would allow you to suspend it that low.
Or, some people use a multi-clamp to hold a tom mount off of their hi-hat stand.
I'll see if I can find some pics if that would help.








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I've done that. Try using a snare stand or suspending the tom on your cymbal/hihat stand with a multi-clamp, just like m said








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i mess around with my toms too the best thing to use is a snare stand try it

i use a snare stand

like so










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or you can take the boom arm of a cymbal stand and put it throught the tom bracket
like so










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tragicmistakedrummer wrote:

i use a snare stand

like so

i used to do that with my previous drumset and a friend does that also. But you gotta be carefull and not tighten it too much or it will effect the sound of the tom but it's great i love playing set up like this. I had tried it just to see and i kept it








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yea i forgot to mention that also i usealy use the pic i posted with the boom stand

and i just threw that together when i saw that(yea i have alot of free time on my hands)








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be careful though, having your tom flat in front of you can play havoc with your posture!!! if you can set it up without leaning forward like and old man on a zimmer frame do it, instead leave your tom as it is and just practice playing between tom and snare concentrating on using the rebound and Good technique it help clear the rim

Cheers








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simeonrodgers wrote:

be careful though, having your tom flat in front of you can play havoc with your posture!!! if you can set it up without leaning forward like and old man on a zimmer frame do it, instead leave your tom as it is and just practice playing between tom and snare concentrating on using the rebound and Good technique it help clear the rim

Cheers

Yup...
What he said... ';o]
Smacking rims is usually a side-effect of a small but crucial technique flaw...
Watch your grip and let the arms flow naturally...Make sure the wrist relaxes during the downstroke after the initial snap in the upstroke position...
And then again after impact...(Hope this makes sense)
This will help take advantage of the rebound. (Even if "Heavy hitting")
Hence, increasing speed, continuity, power, strike accuracy, etc...AND, not hurting yourself...
Work with "Moeller strokes"...As well as the "flatter" Burns/Moore type methods...

All the best...Barrie








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I used to have this problem
but after a few hours practicing going from tom to snare and vicaversa it soon sorted itself out
Still, it can look rather cool having the tom on a snare stand and down to one side, but dont let it affect your posture.

Also, I used to play a kit with a 22 inch kick and 13 inch rack tom that was pretty deep. This raised it up somewhere into the stratosphere
Now, though, I play a kit with a 20 inch kick and a shallow 12 inch rack, and this gives alot more freedom of positioning, as you can bring the tom right down low if required or higher up if you are being 'proper'. Equally, inmy opinion, a 20" kick is far cooler looking than anything bigger or smaller, just my opinion though...

You say you have a pearl forum, the toms on those are definately deeper than shallow toms (if that makes sense) so I can see why youd have trouble positioning them. Get a yamaha, my friend, they are wonderful...








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yeah my jazz kit is set up like that, it means its alot smaller and doesnt look as dominant, but machine head do the same thing, wat i do is i set my tom up in a snare stand, altho it does still sit maybe an inch higher than my snare but u get that, but thats wat i do, for my 2nd tom tho, i have the legs of a boomstand and a tom arm sat inside of it, it works good, and sits at a nice level for a floor which is wat i use it as, but yeah, just chuck the tom in a snare stand and have it like that, it works








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yeah im gunna mount mine on a snare stand and mount my ride on the bass








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yeah im gunna mount mine on a snare stand and mount my ride on the bass

I've seen that done, and played on that kind of a kit. It was alright. It all depends on your style of music and preference though. If you're going for fast sweeps or fills, it's kind of a bitch because you have to skip over the ride to get to the floor tom. Granted, it takes just a split second, but it's unnecessary effort. I just put my ride in between my two floor toms. But like I said, it all depends on your style and preference.








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I own a pearl forum also and take it from me if you play with it for 15 or 20 minutes you should be able to achieve something close to level - try tiliting it slightly and moving the toms apart so you get more lee way between tom and bass drum, see what you end up with. I am not saying you will get it dead level, but close enough to be very comfortable playing. I would even go so far as to say don't play level, because one day you will come to a kit with no time to mess about with it and you will be forced to have a gap. Anyways, best of luck.








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