I'm thinking about buying the Moeller DVD's, does anyone in here have any input? I like what I see on the reviews but am still a little skeptical. Does it "really" help?








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keith bushey wrote:

I'm thinking about buying the Moeller DVD's, does anyone in here have any input? I like what I see on the reviews but am still a little skeptical. Does it "really" help?

In a Word YES

If it's a gimmick, it's hundred year old gimmick that's both highly successful and effective.

If you want to get a feel for it check out Dom Famulao's lessons at VicFirth.com.








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Dr. Rodney McKay wrote:

Well, I only know one thing and that is that flying darkness that eats energy can only be very, very bad.

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why buy them?
just youtube it
i just did, found some good videos








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Moeller is highly overated in my opinion. I wouldn't waste money on learning it.

Homki890








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Homki890 wrote:

Moeller is highly overated in my opinion. I wouldn't waste money on learning it.

Homki890

your overrated
kidding. no I really think its a great method.








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You didn't steal my riff, it was free.

the moellery stroke is something i think every
drummer should learn
it gives your stroke alot more power with less amount
of body energy.
however on the downside it doesnt give you speed many
Drummers today are looking for.

i suggest you learn it and incomporate it in your drumming
because once you properly learn the moeller stroke
it opens a whole new realm of drumming possobilitys

mrgreenjeans2234 wrote:

the moellery stroke is something i think every
drummer should learn
it gives your stroke alot more power with less amount
of body energy.
however on the downside it doesnt give you speed many
Drummers today are looking for.

i suggest you learn it and incomporate it in your drumming
because once you properly learn the moeller stroke
it opens a whole new realm of drumming possobilitys

You kidding me? It uses the entire forearm, whereas just a regular stroke (usually) is just from the wrist. Moeller takes MORE energy than a regular stroke.

Homki890








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Homki890 wrote:

mrgreenjeans2234 wrote:

the moellery stroke is something i think every
drummer should learn
it gives your stroke alot more power with less amount
of body energy.
however on the downside it doesnt give you speed many
Drummers today are looking for.

i suggest you learn it and incomporate it in your drumming
because once you properly learn the moeller stroke
it opens a whole new realm of drumming possobilitys

You kidding me? It uses the entire forearm, whereas just a regular stroke (usually) is just from the wrist. Moeller takes MORE energy than a regular stroke.

Homki890

We play a lot harder than you do. Getting that volume from the wrist alone isn't practical.








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Dr. Rodney McKay wrote:

Well, I only know one thing and that is that flying darkness that eats energy can only be very, very bad.

http://www.MySpace.com/PageFive

In my opinion try the new "jojo mayer: secret weapons for the modern drummer".It is the best instructional dvd and he explains a lot of things about hand technique.The moeller stroke use the minimum energy because you can do at least 3 strokes(DOWN-TAP-UP).Jojo can do 6 strokes with one move if you think it's a waste of energy.There are many great drummers that they're not use the moeller stroke but that depends on you.IN my opinion is a very useful tool for us, just try it to make your own opinion.

SGarrett wrote:

Homki890 wrote:

mrgreenjeans2234 wrote:

the moellery stroke is something i think every
drummer should learn
it gives your stroke alot more power with less amount
of body energy.
however on the downside it doesnt give you speed many
Drummers today are looking for.

i suggest you learn it and incomporate it in your drumming
because once you properly learn the moeller stroke
it opens a whole new realm of drumming possobilitys

You kidding me? It uses the entire forearm, whereas just a regular stroke (usually) is just from the wrist. Moeller takes MORE energy than a regular stroke.

Homki890

We play a lot harder than you do. Getting that volume from the wrist alone isn't practical.

Unfortunately, Moeller isn't for volume, it's for speed. And I'm pretty sure that my rimshot will equal the volume of your rim shot, no matter the technique. There is a limit as to how loud something can get. Rimshot will hit that wall, and not climb any higher in volume.

You want power in a stroke? Don't use Moeller, use your entire arm.

Homki890








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Homki890 wrote:

SGarrett wrote:

Homki890 wrote:

mrgreenjeans2234 wrote:

the moellery stroke is something i think every
drummer should learn
it gives your stroke alot more power with less amount
of body energy.
however on the downside it doesnt give you speed many
Drummers today are looking for.

i suggest you learn it and incomporate it in your drumming
because once you properly learn the moeller stroke
it opens a whole new realm of drumming possobilitys

You kidding me? It uses the entire forearm, whereas just a regular stroke (usually) is just from the wrist. Moeller takes MORE energy than a regular stroke.

Homki890

We play a lot harder than you do. Getting that volume from the wrist alone isn't practical.

Unfortunately, Moeller isn't for volume, it's for speed. And I'm pretty sure that my rimshot will equal the volume of your rim shot, no matter the technique. There is a limit as to how loud something can get. Rimshot will hit that wall, and not climb any higher in volume.

You want power in a stroke? Don't use Moeller, use your entire arm.

Homki890

Are you sure you know what the three Moeller positions actually are and why it was invented in the first place? I know you're a music major and all, but that didn't make any sense. Moeller does use your entire arm, because high volume playing with just the small muscles of the wrist and fingers will tire you out in a hurry. How do you pick your forearm up for a low Moeller? With your bicep, in your upper arm. How do you pick your arm up for the next two Moeller strokes? The large muscles in your shoulder. This allows you to play harder and longer while still using your fingers and wrists for speed. It was invented for marching drummers who had to march and play all day for weeks at a time. If you try to tell me that you can get the same volume from your wrist that you can get from bringing your elbow over your head, you've never learned Moeller correctly.








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Dr. Rodney McKay wrote:

Well, I only know one thing and that is that flying darkness that eats energy can only be very, very bad.

http://www.MySpace.com/PageFive

I second the Jo Jo Mayer video. It really breaks down the Moeller better than any youtube or anyone else I've seen.








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