So, what's the whole deal with these nylon tips? I'm currently playing with some 5B pro-mark sticks which I totally love, but I break them way too early compared to the others I've had. I was thinking I'd continue using Pro-Mark Hickory, there's just something about them that makes me giggle like a girl when I play!

So, stump said that he plays with Pro-Mark 747s in another thread, and there's quite a few 747s to choose from. I am especially looking for endurance with my sticks, I think most sticks make the drums sound good unless they're crappy Millenium sticks or such.

Which would be the most durable 747s in this list (click me)?. Picking the Neil Peart signature sticks seems kinda unnecessary, or are there really any benefits with it compared to the others than the autograph?

Clearer more defined sound over your cymbals. They make ride cynbals more vibrant with glassy pings, they make hi-hats have definite chick and power. They make drums a lot louder and full. They are also more durable and will not crack!

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Clearer more defined sound over your cymbals. They make ride cynbals more vibrant with glassy pings, they make hi-hats have definite chick and power. They make drums a lot louder and full. They are also more durable and will not crack!

I suppose you are talking about nylon tips sticks? Thanks!

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So, what's the whole deal with these nylon tips? I'm currently playing with some 5B pro-mark sticks which I totally love, but I break them way too early compared to the others I've had. I was thinking I'd continue using Pro-Mark Hickory, there's just something about them that makes me giggle like a girl when I play!

So, stump said that he plays with Pro-Mark 747s in another thread, and there's quite a few 747s to choose from. I am especially looking for endurance with my sticks, I think most sticks make the drums sound good unless they're crappy Millenium sticks or such.

Which would be the most durable 747s in this list (click me)?. Picking the Neil Peart signature sticks seems kinda unnecessary, or are there really any benefits with it compared to the others than the autograph?

The Neil Peart sticks are the same as a PW747N (Oak), but with a wood tip instead of nylon.
TX747N is the Nylon tip version of the TX747W, and the TXR747W is a natural finish version of the TX747W.
Oak sticks are more rigid then hickory sticks, and they tend to fail instead of wear out.

I have cracked nylon tips on every brand stick I have played, even Aheads*shudder* (that metal tip does major damage). So it's wood tip for me, and I lean toward the Oak, Japanese to be specific.








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Bong wrote:

I have cracked nylon tips on every brand stick I have played, even Aheads*shudder* (that metal tip does major damage). So it's wood tip for me, and I lean toward the Oak, Japanese to be specific.

Said exactly what I was thinking. The nylon tips I've used (several), have broken off prematurely compared to how often my wood tips chip off (which isn't much at all). Aheads are unnecessary unless you like replacing cymbals more than drumsticks. A good wood olive tip works for me very well. I'd say ball tip for more jazz like stuff and get a sound similar to what you'd get with a nylon tip without having the crappy nylon. Sorry, I hate nylon with a passion lol








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Bong wrote:

I have cracked nylon tips on every brand stick I have played, even Aheads*shudder* (that metal tip does major damage). So it's wood tip for me, and I lean toward the Oak, Japanese to be specific.

Said exactly what I was thinking. The nylon tips I've used (several), have broken off prematurely compared to how often my wood tips chip off (which isn't much at all). Aheads are unnecessary unless you like replacing cymbals more than drumsticks. A good wood olive tip works for me very well. I'd say ball tip for more jazz like stuff and get a sound similar to what you'd get with a nylon tip without having the crappy nylon. Sorry, I hate nylon with a passion lol

I don't have that problem, must be something you're doing.

Empyrean Drums wrote:

titaniumSS wrote:

Bong wrote:

I have cracked nylon tips on every brand stick I have played, even Aheads*shudder* (that metal tip does major damage). So it's wood tip for me, and I lean toward the Oak, Japanese to be specific.

Said exactly what I was thinking. The nylon tips I've used (several), have broken off prematurely compared to how often my wood tips chip off (which isn't much at all). Aheads are unnecessary unless you like replacing cymbals more than drumsticks. A good wood olive tip works for me very well. I'd say ball tip for more jazz like stuff and get a sound similar to what you'd get with a nylon tip without having the crappy nylon. Sorry, I hate nylon with a passion lol

I don't have that problem, must be something you're doing.

Not really. I'm a hard hitter with lots of emotion behind my playing but my technique is fine. It was the sticks, there have been problems with the nylon tips breaking off before. I was using Zildjian and Pro Mark sticks at the time. Now it's only Vater or 3drumsticks.








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titaniumSS wrote:

Empyrean Drums wrote:

titaniumSS wrote:

Bong wrote:

I have cracked nylon tips on every brand stick I have played, even Aheads*shudder* (that metal tip does major damage). So it's wood tip for me, and I lean toward the Oak, Japanese to be specific.

Said exactly what I was thinking. The nylon tips I've used (several), have broken off prematurely compared to how often my wood tips chip off (which isn't much at all). Aheads are unnecessary unless you like replacing cymbals more than drumsticks. A good wood olive tip works for me very well. I'd say ball tip for more jazz like stuff and get a sound similar to what you'd get with a nylon tip without having the crappy nylon. Sorry, I hate nylon with a passion lol

I don't have that problem, must be something you're doing.

Not really. I'm a hard hitter with lots of emotion behind my playing but my technique is fine. It was the sticks, there have been problems with the nylon tips breaking off before. I was using Zildjian and Pro Mark sticks at the time. Now it's only Vater or 3drumsticks.

It's your technique that is crappy, not the nylon. They only break if you hit cymbal nuts and rims

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titaniumSS wrote:

Empyrean Drums wrote:

titaniumSS wrote:

Bong wrote:

I have cracked nylon tips on every brand stick I have played, even Aheads*shudder* (that metal tip does major damage). So it's wood tip for me, and I lean toward the Oak, Japanese to be specific.

Said exactly what I was thinking. The nylon tips I've used (several), have broken off prematurely compared to how often my wood tips chip off (which isn't much at all). Aheads are unnecessary unless you like replacing cymbals more than drumsticks. A good wood olive tip works for me very well. I'd say ball tip for more jazz like stuff and get a sound similar to what you'd get with a nylon tip without having the crappy nylon. Sorry, I hate nylon with a passion lol

I don't have that problem, must be something you're doing.

Not really. I'm a hard hitter with lots of emotion behind my playing but my technique is fine. It was the sticks, there have been problems with the nylon tips breaking off before. I was using Zildjian and Pro Mark sticks at the time. Now it's only Vater or 3drumsticks.

It's your technique that is crappy, not the nylon. They only break if you hit cymbal nuts and rims

Same thing happens to me with nylon tips. They even FLY off sometimes.
That's why I prefer wood tips. The nylons no matter what you do are bright, unlike wood.
I doubt that me and lots of other drummers all have the same technique problem.
Or maybe our technique doesn't work with nylon tips.
Just cause they break off and crap when we're playing doesn't mean our technique is crap, or so I would think.
Just expressing my opinion.








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I used to have ProMark tips fly off constantly. Once I stopped using them, I stopped having that problem. I understand that their tips are far better these days, though.








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Lancelot Frosty wrote:

Empyrean Drums wrote:

titaniumSS wrote:

Empyrean Drums wrote:

titaniumSS wrote:

Bong wrote:

I have cracked nylon tips on every brand stick I have played, even Aheads*shudder* (that metal tip does major damage). So it's wood tip for me, and I lean toward the Oak, Japanese to be specific.

Said exactly what I was thinking. The nylon tips I've used (several), have broken off prematurely compared to how often my wood tips chip off (which isn't much at all). Aheads are unnecessary unless you like replacing cymbals more than drumsticks. A good wood olive tip works for me very well. I'd say ball tip for more jazz like stuff and get a sound similar to what you'd get with a nylon tip without having the crappy nylon. Sorry, I hate nylon with a passion lol

I don't have that problem, must be something you're doing.

Not really. I'm a hard hitter with lots of emotion behind my playing but my technique is fine. It was the sticks, there have been problems with the nylon tips breaking off before. I was using Zildjian and Pro Mark sticks at the time. Now it's only Vater or 3drumsticks.

It's your technique that is crappy, not the nylon. They only break if you hit cymbal nuts and rims

Same thing happens to me with nylon tips. They even FLY off sometimes.
That's why I prefer wood tips. The nylons no matter what you do are bright, unlike wood.
I doubt that me and lots of other drummers all have the same technique problem.
Or maybe our technique doesn't work with nylon tips.
Just cause they break off and crap when we're playing doesn't mean our technique is crap, or so I would think.
Just expressing my opinion.

It is something you are doing; not a product flaw or "crappy nylon", they don't fly off on their own, and many drummers have a problem with hitting rims and cymbal nuts.
And they are supposed to be bright, that's what they are designed for.

Empyrean Drums wrote:

Lancelot Frosty wrote:

Empyrean Drums wrote:

titaniumSS wrote:

Empyrean Drums wrote:

titaniumSS wrote:

Bong wrote:

I have cracked nylon tips on every brand stick I have played, even Aheads*shudder* (that metal tip does major damage). So it's wood tip for me, and I lean toward the Oak, Japanese to be specific.

Said exactly what I was thinking. The nylon tips I've used (several), have broken off prematurely compared to how often my wood tips chip off (which isn't much at all). Aheads are unnecessary unless you like replacing cymbals more than drumsticks. A good wood olive tip works for me very well. I'd say ball tip for more jazz like stuff and get a sound similar to what you'd get with a nylon tip without having the crappy nylon. Sorry, I hate nylon with a passion lol

I don't have that problem, must be something you're doing.

Not really. I'm a hard hitter with lots of emotion behind my playing but my technique is fine. It was the sticks, there have been problems with the nylon tips breaking off before. I was using Zildjian and Pro Mark sticks at the time. Now it's only Vater or 3drumsticks.

It's your technique that is crappy, not the nylon. They only break if you hit cymbal nuts and rims

Same thing happens to me with nylon tips. They even FLY off sometimes.
That's why I prefer wood tips. The nylons no matter what you do are bright, unlike wood.
I doubt that me and lots of other drummers all have the same technique problem.
Or maybe our technique doesn't work with nylon tips.
Just cause they break off and crap when we're playing doesn't mean our technique is crap, or so I would think.
Just expressing my opinion.

It is something you are doing; not a product flaw or "crappy nylon", they don't fly off on their own, and many drummers have a problem with hitting rims and cymbal nuts.
And they are supposed to be bright, that's what they are designed for.

But I don't hit the rims and the cymbal nuts. o_o
I'll take it as advice and look at my technique again, though. Thanks.
Well, I know they're meant to be bright, but I don't want that. XD








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SGarrett wrote:

I used to have ProMark tips fly off constantly. Once I stopped using them, I stopped having that problem. I understand that their tips are far better these days, though.

I had the same thing happen, and it also happened with Vic Firth sticks. It absolutely wasn't technique. They weren't breaking: the glue would fail, and the nylon tip would just pop off the end. It put me off using nylon tips for years. I finally got up the nerve several years ago to buy a pair of vater nylon tip sticks, and they've been fine.








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