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silverbear

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 Paring down to 4 piece
Hi everybody,
I recently bought a yamaha stage custom five piece after playing a roland v kit for the last three years. I toyed a bit with paring down the five piece to a four piece and have been liking the set up. Any comments from those playing a four piece after a larger kit?
Thx!
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Wed May 14, 2008 7:29 pm |
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kansasdrummer

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It will seen more difficult to do fills on a 4 piece. I have a 6 piece set and a 4 peice set. I actually almost prefer the 4 piece, its just more simple, and its more challanging to do a fill. Play with it, see what you like. Sometimes u will wonder why u lugged the extra tom around, then you will think how could u of played without it.
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Wed May 14, 2008 7:34 pm |
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BillRayDrums

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4 pc kit is a great move. Your playing will grow by leaps & bounds.
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Wed May 14, 2008 7:40 pm |
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Mike DeKic

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I normally play a 6 piece, but I always jump at the chance to play a show that only requires me to use a 4 piece. It makes me focus more on just sittin in the pocket and letting the music blend. I love it. I found my fills and licks to be more creative and tasty.mmmm....
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okjohne

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Did the same thing after playing a 7 piece (not including the cheat pedal) Wow, you'll love how it changes your style. Closing that huge gap between your toms will make you fast. You'll spread those hands out and not rely on the closest drum. You are in for a treat if you like to practice. When you go back to the big kit..... well, get ready. Congrats on your savy. By the way, great sounding drums help when you only have a few.
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TheLoneGunman

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I can't seem to ever get settled down on a way to set up my kit. I seem to change it all around at least twice a week. I'll switch between using 4 and 5 peices. I'll switch my rack toms around the opposite way. I'll add or subtract cymbals and different percussion. I just can't seem to get a real grip on how I like my kit, I suppose I just like all sorts of different set ups, but anyone got any ideas on what's wrong with me and how I can settle down on a specific configuration? Maybe it's my ADD; maybe it's not really a problem and I'm freakin over nuthin.
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Assback

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I've played a 4 peice for years and I love it
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Wed May 14, 2008 10:02 pm |
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silverbear

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kansasdrummer wrote:It will seen more difficult to do fills on a 4 piece. I have a 6 piece set and a 4 peice set. I actually almost prefer the 4 piece, its just more simple, and its more challanging to do a fill. Play with it, see what you like. Sometimes u will wonder why u lugged the extra tom around, then you will think how could u of played without it.
Your post made me think a bit because I've been finding fills a little easier to do with the 4 piece. I never realized it till now, but I just figured out I tend to play shorter more compact fills or syncopated single accent strokes / short fill combos.  Thanks for that!
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Thu May 15, 2008 5:16 am |
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silverbear

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BillRayDrums wrote:4 pc kit is a great move. Your playing will grow by leaps & bounds. 
I do believe you are right!
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Thu May 15, 2008 5:51 am |
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J0k3r

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silverbear wrote:BillRayDrums wrote:4 pc kit is a great move. Your playing will grow by leaps & bounds. 
I do believe you are right!
Yeah. I played on an 7 peice for years. I started to feel I was in a rut and I joined my high school jazz band. they have a beat up little 4 peice CB-700 ( like my first kit). Since I've been playing on that,I've felt a greater musical bond with the people I play with and I've gotten better. Simplify...
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Thu May 15, 2008 5:58 am |
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J0k3r

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silverbear wrote:BillRayDrums wrote:4 pc kit is a great move. Your playing will grow by leaps & bounds. 
I do believe you are right!
Yeah. I played on an 7 peice for years. I started to feel I was in a rut and I joined my high school jazz band. they have a beat up little 4 peice CB-700 ( like my first kit). Since I've been playing on that,I've felt a greater musical bond with the people I play with and I've gotten better. Simplify...
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Thu May 15, 2008 5:58 am |
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silverbear

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TheLoneGunman wrote:I can't seem to ever get settled down on a way to set up my kit. I seem to change it all around at least twice a week. I'll switch between using 4 and 5 peices. I'll switch my rack toms around the opposite way. I'll add or subtract cymbals and different percussion. I just can't seem to get a real grip on how I like my kit, I suppose I just like all sorts of different set ups, but anyone got any ideas on what's wrong with me and how I can settle down on a specific configuration? Maybe it's my ADD; maybe it's not really a problem and I'm freakin over nuthin.
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I was doing the same thing there for a while - I think its a healthy thing to do. I resisted the 4 piece for a while, even though it felt better. I took a 27 year break from drumming as I stopped after high school and didn't pick it up again till about 2 years ago when my church needed a drummer bad. I never played a kit in high school, so its been a real learning experience at 47 years old! "The" kit in my mind was the standard two rack tom, one floor tom set..... but perhaps not!
I've also moved cymbals around, in and out, up and down - you know the drill. I think I have the kit where I want it for the time being. Its compact, seems to fit my playing style better than 5 piece, and just feels right.
If I add anything, it will be more cymbals!
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Thu May 15, 2008 6:18 am |
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Alan_

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I play a 4 piece, every blue moon I'll add my 16" floor and play 5.
I'd rather have my ride cymbal and hi-hat nice and tight than another rack tom.
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Thu May 15, 2008 6:26 am |
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Rem

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BillRayDrums wrote:4 pc kit is a great move. Your playing will grow by leaps & bounds. 
120% the truth, this guy knows what hes on about, especially with 4 peice
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Thu May 15, 2008 9:26 am |
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Vanden

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I think playing 4 piece kits can make your playing a lot more imaginative and really helps with improv. Thats because you have less sounds to work with.
I think i will always play a four piece.
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