as long as were posting pedals:










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That thing is wild.

Man where did you see that thing? I wanna check it out some more








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Holy crap. How does it play?








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im surprised that no one has ever thought about that before

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im surprised that no one has ever thought about that before

Sleishman made the FIRST double kick pedal EVER, he was decades ahead of his time.

And he still makes goofy pedals.








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Can you adjust the legspread? It seems there's not much space for a snare drum.








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Shalaq wrote:

Can you adjust the legspread? It seems there's not much space for a snare drum.

Like I said... it's goofy!








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Like I said... it's goofy!

don't tell that to Will Calhoun from Living COlor!








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That's wierd, but he may be violation of a trademark.

http://pointtremolo.com/pdf/off-set_basspedal.pdf

http://pointtremolo.com/review_offset.htm

A friend of mine here in PA has a patent for that type of pedal, he already took down Sonor when they tried to incorporate his design into the Giant Step line.








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screamkevin wrote:

That's wierd, but he may be violation of a trademark.
A friend of mine here in PA has a patent for that type of pedal, he already took down Sonor when they tried to incorporate his design into the Giant Step line.

Sleishman made the first double pedal in the late sixties, it was a modification of two speed kings.



By 1972, he had a production pedal on the market:



In 1973, Don Sleismhan was awarded a Patent:

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United States Patent 3,750,517
Sleishman August 7, 1973

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DRUM PEDAL DEVICE


Abstract
A drum double pedal device comprising two beaters mounted in front of the drum, each of the beaters comprising a stem and a head. Two depressible foot pedals are connected to the beaters by means of a drive transmission. The beaters are mounted for swing movement about axes oriented in a manner such that the heads of the beaters are farther apart when remote from the drum than they are when in contact with the drum.

In 2004, Sleishman was awarded a second patent for his improved design:

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United States Patent 6,734,350
Sleishman May 11, 2004

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Twin pedal assembly for a bass drum


Abstract
A twin pedal assembly (1) for a bass drum (2), said pedal assembly including a base (3) adapted for connection to the drum. The base includes a pair of posts (11), each post being adapted to support a respective beater shaft (15). Each beater shaft is in turn adapted to support a corresponding beater (16), incorporating an elongate stem (17) extending outwardly from the beater shaft and a head (18) supported on the remote end of the stem. The head is adapted for contact with a strike zone (19) on the diaphragm or skin (2) of the drum.

Sonor still has the Giant Step Middle Pedal in their line-up:



I can't find a patent for your friends pedal... I searched Charles Fisher and the only Patent I see of his (six of them actually) are for guitar technologies which makes sense because his Tremolo device is really exceptional and novel... But are you sure his pedal is patented?









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yeah, I own an offset pedal myself, and talked to the owner at NAMM.
I hadn't seen the Sleishman at that point though, so I'm not sure what the deal is there-

here's the pedal in its natural surroundings;


pics courtesy and with permission of Drumsmith.com/ron dunnett.








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But are you sure his pedal is patented?

As far as I know it is. Sonor ripped his design and incorporated it into their Middle Step, but I was at my local music store the day that the Hohner rep came in and removed the MiddleStep pedals from the store. He said that they had run in to legal difficulties with Chuck (Charles Fisher) and that they were halting production of that pedal. They may have a bunch still in stock, and may not have updated their site lately, or maybe they got everything worked out, I don't know. I do know that Chuck is very protective of his design, and isn't afraid to take on the big boys.








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screamkevin wrote:

Sonor ripped his design and incorporated it into their Middle Step, but I was at my local music store the day that the Hohner rep came in and removed the MiddleStep pedals from the store. He said that they had run in to legal difficulties with Chuck (Charles Fisher) and that they were halting production of that pedal. They may have a bunch still in stock, and may not have updated their site lately, or maybe they got everything worked out, I don't know. I do know that Chuck is very protective of his design, and isn't afraid to take on the big boys.

They probably did a license deal or something if indeed he had a patent for some of the key features. Sonor did the prudent thing by pulling the pedals from the stores while they sorted things out. On examination, the two pedals are freakishly similar... on the key points, too close, actually!








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Hi.

I am new to this forum and posted in 'Twin Pedals'. Then I saw this thread and couldn't believe it.

I live in Sydney, Australia, play Sleishman Twin Pedals (Though not as new and good looking as the photo above. I'm calling them tomorrow about that!) and I'm honored to know the inventor Don.

Having played them for over 10 years, I am an absolute convert. These pedals are anything but goofy! I know Will Calhoun from Living Colour would aggree with me here!

The man has put his life into them and the way they play suggests as much.

With out doubt, these are the smoothest, most responsive and equal feel pedals I have ever played. I tried the Trick pedals a while ago as there has been so much hype, I thought I'd better see what the fuss is about. Not bad, but not even close.

Apart from the mirror image action, you sit directly in the center and for me, this rocks as my hands are directly above my feet and it feels very natural when Im playing unison patterns.

You can totally adjust the footplate spread.

I admit, it did take some getting used to the fact that my feet were in a different position to how I had played for the previous fifteen years. I got over it in less than a week and have never looked back.

I'm getting my hands on these new ones as soon as Don has them ready!








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