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ButterscotchBandit420

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 Snare buzz when hitting toms
I'm not sure if this topic has been discussed or not, so if it has i apologize.
I noticed as of late that when i hit my toms i get some really nasty snare buzz. I have tried to remedy this by tightening my snare more but it is still happening. Can anybody give me some advice on how to remedy this problem. Thank you in advance.
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Wed Jan 24, 2007 4:19 pm |
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Rockaflodge

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I dont know about any body eles but I have always, (sence the frist day I started playing-10 years ago) hade that buzz, mine is not nasty but it does buzz alittle when playing the rest of the kit. It does not bother me. I dont know if it can be fixed because the reason it buzzs is the low frequency of the toms resonate out wards and cause the snares to vibrate and you get the buzz. hope its some help-but if anybody knows how to stop, let us know how.
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primergray

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I Dont Know But I Have The Same Problem
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Wed Jan 24, 2007 4:58 pm |
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Zim

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As do we all. I have found that if my snare is not on to much of a pitch it doesnt buzz as bad. I really hate when we are doing a quieter song onstage and I can hear the snare buzz when the bass player is playing. I try to make sure my snares are flat and if the strainer is jacked up even a little I change the strainer that helps alot too. I have 6 differant snare drums so I have found if I change em' up a bit I don't have too much trouble w/ buzz.
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Wed Jan 24, 2007 5:32 pm |
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seandude

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i did intell i got a nice kit
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Wed Jan 24, 2007 6:36 pm |
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ShockValue_10

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jst put a towel or dampining ring over your tombs it works and gives a good sound
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Wed Jan 24, 2007 9:01 pm |
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tabbott23

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guys, it's a drum set. it will buzz when you hit your toms if the frequencies between the toms and the snare are similar. it's NOTHING to do with your kit or whether its 'nice' or not. it's tuning. also, if your snare is a 14" and your toms are even sizes (i.e. 10",12",14",16") the frequencies will naturally be closer. with odd sized toms, the buzzing is less. you listen to vinnie's kit or gregg bissonette's. they all buzz.
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Thu Jan 25, 2007 12:07 am |
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drumtone

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i get this problem with the amps the guitarists use. my snare buzzes on low frequencies. the bassist in my band says he likes it cuz it helps him tune, but it drives me crazy. i've seen the pros mount up fiberglass or plastic shields around the set, but never tried it myself.
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Thu Jan 25, 2007 12:26 am |
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weeksj

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towels are definately not the go, unless ur jusr banging away at home and u dont care, and damping rings dont stop the buzz.
some snares are worse than others, try talking to someone in your local drum store theyll show point u in the direction of a good strainer.
otherwise practise how quick u can work your throw off in the quiet songs.
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Thu Jan 25, 2007 12:42 am |
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Muse

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As a rule, muffling only makes a drum quieter and as someone stated before, the key relies in tuning. Sometimes that takes too long or seems impossible and it becomes necessary to muffle. When doing so, I've found that the old adage... "Less is More" works well. To much muffling and you loose subtle nuances and overtones that can't breathe or resonate when the head is choked.
Sympathetic frequencies can be hard to tune out at times. If two drums share the same note or close to it they may both resonate when one is struck. Likewise for a bass guitar or guitar playing and causing a drum to "sing".
As for the actual snare rattle you might make sure the snare belly is good. Allowing proper alignment of the snares into the bottom head. And I've found that better quality snares perform better, don't stretch & last longer.
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Thu Jan 25, 2007 1:07 am |
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Preston

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 So what? Who cares if there's snare buzz?
There's no way to stop it completely. Does it really matter? When the band is playing, no one's going to hear it any way. If there's part of a song where it's very quiet and the drums aren't playing, it can be heard, but just turn off the snares with the throw off strainer until you have to start playing. After you start playing the buzz isn't important. I've been playing pro for 46 years, doing live, recording and TV, and it's never been a major concern. We just have to live with it. To muffle the toms or snare or tighten the snares until it doesn't buzz only makes the drums sound awful. I would rather have the buzz than the sound of overly muffled drums or choked snare drums.
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Thu Jan 25, 2007 1:12 am |
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deep-illusions

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Yeah, the snares chain will always resonate. Its kinda physics law of waves, however to avoid some of the vibrations u might wanna dissperce the wave.
There are some snare chains that are better than others at that. I use one (sorry, dont remember the name) where it has 6 lines on top, then a small space with a padded sort of band and then the other 6 lines on the bottom... It doesnt affect the sound of the snare much (to me it feels warmer than when i had it with all the chains together) just as a normal new chain would. It diminishes slightly the vibration so it might help. I personally like the dynamics of the kit, so whether it vibrates or not i love it haha.
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Thu Jan 25, 2007 1:17 am |
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phoenix7289

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Yah I really only have this issue with outside sounds, not from my toms or anything. I mean, of course it is there, but I don't really notice it much. I guess, I can't say anything other than what others have said before me. =/
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Thu Jan 25, 2007 1:23 am |
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zappawizard

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It's A little thing called "sympathetic resonance", as has been mentioned, the tom and the snare are resonating at the same frequency, try tuning your bottom tom head a little higher and maybe your snare head a little looser. Basically move their tunings aways from each other. there will always be a certain amount of snare buzz regardless of what you do however, so just get used to that.
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Thu Jan 25, 2007 3:26 am |
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taylorbrinneman

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I had that same problem and i put one of our old Evans MX White marching heads on my snare leftover from school. I cranked it real tight as well as my snares. I shouldn't say problem solved, as i play with headphones and dont notice it at home, but for the most part I think it worked.
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