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BassDrummer

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 Speed King Versus Axis?
I'm going to get a direct drive pedal, I'm sick of these sluggish chain drive that everybody seems to sell!
Tricks looks sweet but are HUGE coin!
I see some decent SK's and Axis pedals used on EBAY that are affordable
Which one of these pedals if you had a choice would you go with and why?
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zen_drummer

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Speed Kings Squeak, Axis is a better pedal... BUT... speed kings FEEL really GREAT!
Very very fast, too...
Too bad they rattle and squeak!
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Thu Apr 03, 2008 1:13 pm |
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Alan_

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and there's nothing you can ever do about the squeak. they're sooo fast. not real sturdy tho. I've broken a couple. also love the ghost pedals.
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Thu Apr 03, 2008 1:24 pm |
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xdoseonex

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axis pedals are engineered and built better. but those speed kings have history
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Thu Apr 03, 2008 2:06 pm |
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BassDrummer

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The new SK's squeak too?
I have a Elim DB pedal now. I think I am going back to a single pedal anyway. SK's or Axis will be my next purchase. I did see a really nice used Trick for about $300.00, but that's a lot of cheddar for a pedal.
Which pedal plays faster SK or Axis?
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Thu Apr 03, 2008 3:22 pm |
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BassDrummer

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Ever play a Yamaha direct drive anyone?
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Thu Apr 03, 2008 3:41 pm |
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Rem

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yeah they dont feel as good as the axis or speed king...
I wish DW would do a direct drive 5000
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Thu Apr 03, 2008 3:58 pm |
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Manzo

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go with axis, more reliable and build to perform
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Thu Apr 03, 2008 4:14 pm |
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zen_drummer

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BassDrummer wrote:The new SK's squeak too?
Every bit as bad as the old ones!
BassDrummer wrote: Which pedal plays faster SK or Axis?
Pedals don't play... People do! Some people can play faster on an Axis, others can play faster on a Speed King. It's all about the driver and his or her relationship with the machine.
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Thu Apr 03, 2008 8:40 pm |
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likelight2flies

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BassDrummer wrote:Ever play a Yamaha direct drive anyone?
I tried em out once. I liked em. The only thing I've ever heard negative about em is that the springs aren't strong enough.
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Fri Apr 04, 2008 6:49 am |
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BassDrummer

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zen_drummer wrote:BassDrummer wrote:The new SK's squeak too?
Every bit as bad as the old ones!
BassDrummer wrote: Which pedal plays faster SK or Axis?
Pedals don't play... People do! Some people can play faster on an Axis, others can play faster on a Speed King. It's all about the driver and his or her relationship with the machine.
True very true.... I guess I was looking for personal expieriences. I played a SK once, I remember it squeaking like a Mofo, but it was butter. My brother in law loves his Axis..
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Fri Apr 04, 2008 8:40 am |
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BassDrummer

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likelight2flies wrote:BassDrummer wrote:Ever play a Yamaha direct drive anyone?
I tried em out once. I liked em. The only thing I've ever heard negative about em is that the springs aren't strong enough.
For $99 brand new I think it would be worth investigating
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Fri Apr 04, 2008 8:41 am |
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Alan_

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Heck, I personally am really in tune with my DW5000. The extra mass seems to work to my advantage. I have no problem pulling off doubles or really syncopated fast rhythmic figures on it. I suppose a lot of it is just being used to it. I've played DW 5000's since 1994. I could blaze on my double pedal when I had it.
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Fri Apr 04, 2008 8:51 am |
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BassDrummer

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Alan_ wrote:Heck, I personally am really in tune with my DW5000. The extra mass seems to work to my advantage. I have no problem pulling off doubles or really syncopated fast rhythmic figures on it. I suppose a lot of it is just being used to it. I've played DW 5000's since 1994. I could blaze on my double pedal when I had it.
To be honest there have been DW pedals that I liked, none that I have loved. IC's and the Elims feel OK, but again still not totally comfortable with any of these pedals. I have played every DW DB model out there, some very well broken in models that my friends own. Again they feel OK, I think I need to go with a direct drive...that chain/strap design most pedals have just doesn't do it for me. I have Elims now for about 3 months tried every cam, and adjustment one can think of..they are sluggish! I use to have this OLD Sonar pedal, looked like a Ghost Pedal but it had a leather strap. Best pedal I ever played. The next best would have been an old Speed King I play in middle school.
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Fri Apr 04, 2008 10:23 am |
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Alan_

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yeah, I really dug my speed kings when I played them, but now I get on them and they feel totally flimsy. also, I can't justify playing a pedal that I have such an easy time breaking in loud situations. on one I had, I broke the casting that goes between the springs that the beater fits into. on another, I broke the footboard. I've gone through several of the metal pieces that hook the pedal to the beater as well.
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