HELLO EVERYONE FROM THE FORUM!! I AM A NEW MEMBER OF THE FORUM!!

I got added from my private myspace (/chepaabs) and started reading tons of threads that were REALLY interesting !!

My question to EVERYONE here its the following:

Does technique matters when it comes to expenses??? Can a good technique drummer really save up a lot of $ in the long run?

EX: I change skins every 10 months and my cymbals usually last me for almost a year.

I've read many posts about CYMBALS breaking, sticks, changing skins, replacing bass pedals. I recently broke my right crash on the edges (after a year) and im already freaking out I have to spend $ again to buy a new one. These videos will give you SOME idea of HOW I play them. I am questioning myself now.. my technique. I hit pretty solid, HOWEVER, I try not to FORCE the cymbal making sure it gives all the loudness it can give. My sticks break almost every 2 weeks... and reading many posts here I found out that playing LOTS of rimshots (which I do in almost every single hit, even rolls) will cause your sticks to break. Am I freaking out too much? You badass drummers can really help me on this one

PLEASE watch the videos of my band and you can see me playing (somewhat), if I am doing anything wrong let me know.





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SORRY FOR THE QUALITY !!

NOTE *I do play with my snare tilted towards the front (away from me) and my cymbals' heigth are around my foreheads level because I have long arms.








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Check out this link:
http://www.paiste.com/faqs/default.php?faqcategoryid=3&faqid=78#faq78
and compare it to your technique. It may help with cymbal breakage.
Sticks will break especially if you use a lot of rim shots so not much you can do there.
Enjoyed the clips by the way.

wow thanks a lot!! That already helped, and thanks for the video comments....

Keep the answers coming, and please responds to my questions!! thanks people








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Good technique overall saves more than just money. It saves your gear but in the long run it saves your body.

All these "unbreakable" products that seem to be coming out....guess what? Something's gotta give and it's usually something on YOU.








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BillRayDrums wrote:

Good technique overall saves more than just money. It saves your gear but in the long run it saves your body.

All these "unbreakable" products that seem to be coming out....guess what? Something's gotta give and it's usually something on YOU.

Word. You said you had your snare tilted away from you which would explain the rim shots, that's what is eating your sticks up. What if you put you snare flat or tilted it toward you, and just done rim shots for accents?








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Well 2 things for that.

I've been playing with the snare like that for the last 4/5 yrs and im already used to it. 2nd, the sounds goes to the audience and not towards me, which gives me better hearing and not leaving me deaf even tho i used ear pieces.

I shouldn't even mention that i hate the look of the snare facing me, the rim shots just aren't the same =[

Now what im worried about the most are my cymbals, I never hit them from the side, they are FLAT as you see in the videos... and I always hit them in a direction higher than what they already are.

I've also been readin posts about sticks in this forum, and so far NO DRUMMER that i heard of plays with the neil pearl 747 pro mark (woodtip)
I can only get them at west coast drum, guitar center nor sam ash have them....

So am I doing BAD or GOOD in terms of cymbals/skins/sicks? or do I have to change my technique?

P.S. YOU GUYS ROCK, THANKS FOR THE HELP !! KEEP EM COMING and PLEASE PLEASE answer my questions above








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You bet. But it's not just sticks, heads, and cymbals. Those things are a given.

Look farther down the road: Good technique means you're playing correctly so that in 20 or 30 years you'll still be at it without having to endure wrist-splints and pain. It's posture on the kit, it's using gear that doesn't have you strain just to get the sh*t out of the car/truck, it’s watching how you play – learning to let the sticks do the work and not your hands and arms.

I constantly see folks playing and man it doesn't look pretty: Heavy sticks, weird angles, bad grips, and folks sitting so low their knees are in their chest. I look at these drummers and think to myself, “they’re not long for this drumming game.” They’re so focus on how fast they can play (the set or bass drums), how hard they can “groove,” and how they think it looks in front that they forfeit technique for expediency. They can do it now, but I doubt their limbs will take years of punishment.

I don’t think there’s anything sadder than to see a teenager or twenty-something drummer talk about how they’re having to give up the skins because of Carpal-Tunnel Syndrome. And, over the last 10 years, I’ve heard it a lot.








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Vater, Cappella and Vic Firth Sticks
Proudly playing drums crafted in the USA.

Good technique will make you an old man without having a wall of broken cymbals. You will have far fewer "Oh My God the pieces went flying and hit this big boobed blonde chick right in the " stories. You will also have fewer Travis Barker impersonations in your repitoir.

You bet yer sweet bippy its gonna be cheaper in the long run.








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ThePloughman wrote:

Duct Tape, Moongells, and Remos...... with pinstripes

Rogers Drums USA

Check this out
http://www.pearldrummersforum.com/showthread.php?t=196158

ThePloughman wrote:

Good technique will make you an old man without having a wall of broken cymbals. You will have far fewer "Oh My God the pieces went flying and hit this big boobed blonde chick right in the " stories. You will also have fewer Travis Barker impersonations in your repitoir.

You bet yer sweet bippy its gonna be cheaper in the long run.

Hey Jack, thought of you the other day.

Was at breakfast at a hotel and there was a group in the lounge. Drummer had a Big R set of Rogers in Butcher Block. Set looked and sounded great - guy even had a matching snare. Spoke briefly and he bought ii new back in the day. Couldn't be happier with his set. 20" bass, 12" and 14" toms.

Alden








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Vater, Cappella and Vic Firth Sticks
Proudly playing drums crafted in the USA.

Check this thread out bro maybe it'll shed some light on the matter for ya:

http://www.drumsmylife.com/why-do-my-a-customs-keep-breaking-vt8037.html








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Alden, thank you.

The appreciation of quality in the gear a drummer chooses cannot be underscored too much anytime you begin to consider the importance of proper technique. While it is very true a good drummer can get reasonably good sound from crap drums, ...I once seen a guy on an old set of CB700s that sounded awesome.... And Ive seen a bad drummer with horrible sound in great drums....... Im thinking of a set of Gretsch Renowns I once played that could have passed for a badly tuned First Act... The developement of skill in proper technique creates within the player a sense of pride and accomplishment. Along with that development of skill comes a development in taste for sound, cymbals, variations of tones, achieving multitudes of tones out of the same drum, and all of those talents and skills will transfer into better and better gear.

When I was first learning, my teacher made me use an old 50s K Zildjian 18" (WOW) thing is..... there was a 4" crack running in the lathing about halfway up the bow. As long as you didnt lay into it, and you kept the crack aligned, that cymbal had great sound. The moment you got into it a little heavy, there was a distinctive buzzz. I was told, by the time you play that a couple of years, and you dont break it or make that crack bigger, you will be ready for real cymbals. In 1979 I bought my first Rogers set, it came with 2002 cymbals which I sold after using them for 25 years. I wish I had them back. I do however still play 2oo2 cymbals.








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ThePloughman wrote:

Duct Tape, Moongells, and Remos...... with pinstripes

Rogers Drums USA

Check this out
http://www.pearldrummersforum.com/showthread.php?t=196158

cableman26 wrote:

BillRayDrums wrote:

Good technique overall saves more than just money. It saves your gear but in the long run it saves your body.

All these "unbreakable" products that seem to be coming out....guess what? Something's gotta give and it's usually something on YOU.

Word. You said you had your snare tilted away from you which would explain the rim shots, that's what is eating your sticks up. What if you put you snare flat or tilted it toward you, and just done rim shots for accents?

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PAABS wrote:

Well 2 things for that.

I've been playing with the snare like that for the last 4/5 yrs and im already used to it. 2nd, the sounds goes to the audience and not towards me, which gives me better hearing and not leaving me deaf even tho i used ear pieces.

I shouldn't even mention that i hate the look of the snare facing me, the rim shots just aren't the same =[

Now what im worried about the most are my cymbals, I never hit them from the side, they are FLAT as you see in the videos... and I always hit them in a direction higher than what they already are.

When your body mechanics start to suffer, you'll change that snare angle. This is a point that has posted more than once.

Start working on correct technique if you're really that worried. From the videos you posted, you're driving way too hard into your cymbals.








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cableman26 wrote:

BillRayDrums wrote:

Good technique overall saves more than just money. It saves your gear but in the long run it saves your body.

All these "unbreakable" products that seem to be coming out....guess what? Something's gotta give and it's usually something on YOU.

Word. You said you had your snare tilted away from you which would explain the rim shots, that's what is eating your sticks up. What if you put you snare flat or tilted it toward you, and just done rim shots for accents?

I don't agree on the rim shot deal... The shots aren't the culprit... Sure they eat up your sticks...but not nearly as much as a cymbal would. If your cymbals are high and flat, you're gonna go through alot of sticks, as well as cymbals. Drop the cymbals abit or tilt them forward just abit and you'll go through less stix and save your cymbals.
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Can I ask if there's a reason you have decided to set up like that?

DWToast is right, drop the cymbals, tilt them a little towards, star swiping them rather than drive through and look at your snare angle. Just trry it out at practice, see how it feels.

Right now you're nearly leaving the stool just to get to the crashes... that strikes me as insane, far to much effort!








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