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BNSFDisneyZildjian

beginner
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Location: San Diego, California
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 Tips For Increasing Pedal Speed
Can my fellow drummers aide me with some tips to increase my foot for my pedal when I play. I been having trouble with it lately. I currently have the DW 7002 Double Pedal.
Any Tips with be great! ^_^
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Thu Apr 03, 2008 7:55 pm |
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invision

drumming adept
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i still struggle with my pedals some days, what i do is just do singles slowly using just your feet and build up speed, then ill do doubles and do the same, i still suck at triples so i do these before i play everytime to warm up.
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Thu Apr 03, 2008 8:14 pm |
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drumur

session drummer
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if you do a search, there's loads of threads with plenty of info on that topic
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Thu Apr 03, 2008 8:37 pm |
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AshleyDrums

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Practice, usually the best way
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Fri Apr 04, 2008 3:54 am |
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OllyDrummer

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Get a metronome, and start off on a slow bpm, just playing eighth notes, and slowly build-up.
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Fri Apr 04, 2008 4:51 am |
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likelight2flies

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OllyDrummer wrote:Get a metronome, and start off on a slow bpm, just playing eighth notes, and slowly build-up.
Pick a technique, do it properly and practice it. Learn about the dynamics of the pedal you use and different tuning methods. That's basically what I did...it's working well enough.
Oh and keep seaching/posting on the forums! You'll learn a lot from your battery brotheren =)
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Fri Apr 04, 2008 6:43 am |
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speedball6sic6

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What I'm getting into is using those ankle weights for like...runners...you can get em at Big5 and I play NORMALLY with those, and then I play without them, and my legs are still adjusted to the speed of the extra weight, so I end up playing a bit faster with them off..... it takes time but works! Thats what Gene Hoglan does, although I saw him play with ankle weights live too...ridiculous...
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Fri Apr 04, 2008 9:00 am |
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Alan_

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speedball6sic6 wrote: Thats what Gene Hoglan does, although I saw him play with ankle weights live too...ridiculous...
HAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I've only seen Gene play live twice: once with Dark Angel and once with SYL. How anybody can look so calm while playing with such dexterity just blows me away. He's soooooo relaxed. I also love how tiny he makes his huge double bass drumkit look. Guy's built like a mountain.
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Fri Apr 04, 2008 9:07 am |
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xdoseonex

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Practice heel down not too fast for long periods of time. Then do heel up. Then increase your speed by like 10 bpms and do the same thing. make you you do each speed incriment for at least 2 minutes if not 5.
thats all you need to do. but you have to accually do it. and don't get bored after a minute of doing it and stop.
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Fri Apr 04, 2008 9:19 am |
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Alan_

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yup, that's what I did when I got fast on double bass in the 90's: practiced both heel down and heel up for long periods of time, started out slow and gradually worked up my speed.
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Fri Apr 04, 2008 9:40 am |
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BillRayDrums

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Slow practice makes your fast playing better. When you understand the way the notes are supposed to fit together then it all comes together.
Playing fast=making the spaces between the notes smaller. That's it. Try that approach And I guarantee your speed will get faster. Just play relaxed at all times.
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Fri Apr 04, 2008 10:00 am |
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RANKBand.com

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This is something I battle with all the time because I play a lot of rock music and heavy metal with challenging bass drum beats (not speed metal though). I do a lot of bouncing with my heal up and I rarely put my heal down unless playing very softly. Basically my ability to work the bass pedals can make our break a show...
And so here is my advice:
1) Buy very good quality bass pedals, such as DW7000 or DW9000, preferably dual chain driven (I do have some less expensive pedals on ebay if you can't afford $250 for DW http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnetsecsvc)
2) Buy good quality drum heads, especially the batter head, such as Evans EMAD
3) Adjust your pedal to were it feels "good" to YOU -- it should be "easy" to play
4) Adjust your bass drum head to were it feels "good" to you -- it should be "easy" to play
5) Use a pillow or something inside the bass drum, this really makes clearer thumps and gives me a better response from the pedals!
Of course you have to practice, everyone knows that. But what I've found is that your practice will be wasted if your equipment is essentially failing you. In my opnion equipment is equally important to practice.
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Fri Apr 04, 2008 7:49 pm |
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xdoseonex

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RANKBand.com wrote:This is something I battle with all the time because I play a lot of rock music and heavy metal with challenging bass drum beats (not speed metal though). I do a lot of bouncing with my heal up and I rarely put my heal down unless playing very softly. Basically my ability to work the bass pedals can make our break a show...
And so here is my advice:
1) Buy very good quality bass pedals, such as DW7000 or DW9000, preferably dual chain driven (I do have some less expensive pedals on ebay if you can't afford $250 for DW http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnetsecsvc)
2) Buy good quality drum heads, especially the batter head, such as Evans EMAD
3) Adjust your pedal to were it feels "good" to YOU -- it should be "easy" to play
4) Adjust your bass drum head to were it feels "good" to you -- it should be "easy" to play
5) Use a pillow or something inside the bass drum, this really makes clearer thumps and gives me a better response from the pedals!
Of course you have to practice, everyone knows that. But what I've found is that your practice will be wasted if your equipment is essentially failing you. In my opnion equipment is equally important to practice.
Get your technique down properly, and you'll be able to play fast on an ok pedal, with an ok drumhead, where the bass drum head feels like crap on a unmuffled bass drum
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Fri Apr 04, 2008 9:26 pm |
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SGarrett

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The 5000 is a better pedal than the 7000.
The instrument does not play the musician. (Stargate quote, ahoy!) I've seen good drummers rock out on complete kits that cost $300 brand new, including the stock kick pedal with no spring adjustments. Mike Johnston used to walk right past DW kits to one of those and say "if I can't make this thing sound good I have no business playing drums". It's about learning how to control your instrument. I mean, do you say that the quality and tension of the snare head along with your sticks is what makes you able to play? Of course not, because that'd be silly. Definitely use the gear to your advantage, but make sure you're the one who's doing the playing.
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Sat Apr 05, 2008 2:13 am |
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drumur

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Quote:The instrument does not play the musician. (Stargate quote, ahoy!) I've seen good drummers rock out on complete kits that cost $300 brand new, including the stock kick pedal with no spring adjustments. Mike Johnston used to walk right past DW kits to one of those and say "if I can't make this thing sound good I have no business playing drums". It's about learning how to control your instrument. I mean, do you say that the quality and tension of the snare head along with your sticks is what makes you able to play? Of course not, because that'd be silly. Definitely use the gear to your advantage, but make sure you're the one who's doing the playing
Yes!
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