Music Factory Direct


Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 11 posts ] 
tuning question 
Share on MySpace
Author Message
drumming adept
drumming adept

Joined: Tue Dec 25, 2007 12:51 am
Posts: 368
Location: Romania, Brasov
Post tuning question
Hey guys


I have a little trouble here. I have a tama superstar fusion drum set with evans ec2 over remo ambasador. I tune my tom toms to sound just great when i sit behind the kit. but 10 feet in front...they sound like junk. is it a problem? in live situations the mics are right on top the drums. but my guitar player is driving me crazy....hey man, your tome sound like s^^t. and i ask him to join me near the drum set...and he confirms my theory.

_________________
Tama Superstar Fusion Set
Remo Emperor/Ambasador
Remo EmperorX/Hazy 250
Remo Powersonic
Pro-Mark 747B, Pro-Mark Jason Bonham Signature
Paiste 2002 and Zildjian A Custom
Gibraltar Thorne
Tama Iron Cobra Rolling Glide Double Pedal.


Sat Jan 16, 2010 12:04 pm
Profile YIM
 


Sat Jan 16, 2010 12:09 pm
session drummer
session drummer

Joined: Tue Jul 24, 2007 12:05 pm
Posts: 944
Location: Miami, Fl
Post Re: tuning question
Are you muffling ? With what? Muffling can kill they necessary overtones needed to cut threw. It could be the reso heads too. Try tuning them to the same pitch or a quarter turn over same pitch and see if that helps.

_________________
7 piece Pearl EXR
Saluda cymbals


Sat Jan 16, 2010 12:09 pm
Profile WWW
drumming adept
drumming adept

Joined: Tue Dec 25, 2007 12:51 am
Posts: 368
Location: Romania, Brasov
Post Re: tuning question
no muffling at all. just the edge control ring. they are tunet at aprox. the same pitch.

_________________
Tama Superstar Fusion Set
Remo Emperor/Ambasador
Remo EmperorX/Hazy 250
Remo Powersonic
Pro-Mark 747B, Pro-Mark Jason Bonham Signature
Paiste 2002 and Zildjian A Custom
Gibraltar Thorne
Tama Iron Cobra Rolling Glide Double Pedal.


Sat Jan 16, 2010 12:30 pm
Profile YIM
groove master
groove master
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jun 29, 2007 3:53 pm
Posts: 4300
Location: Maine
Post Re: tuning question
Lose the rings and tune them so they sound good out front.

_________________
MEDICINE MAN AZ Endorsed, TRICK PEDALS, ZILDJIAN, SABIAN, SALUDA, SUPERNATURALS, ASAPH, WUHAN, SILVERFOX, BUD LIGHT

Image


Sun Jan 17, 2010 6:37 am
Profile WWW
groove master
groove master
User avatar

Joined: Sun Apr 06, 2008 6:04 pm
Posts: 1854
Location: Elizabethtown, PA
Post Re: tuning question
He'd have to get new heads to lose the rings. But you probably should be getting new heads for that anyway. EC2's are better for close miking situations in the studio. I'd get some G2 clears or maybe try some of their new Onyx heads. And like Bong said, tune them so they sound good out front, maybe about 20 or so feet away

_________________
"From the mountaintop, he looks upon the crowds. Mindful among the mindless abound. King Of Those Who Know."


Sun Jan 17, 2010 7:30 am
Profile WWW
drumming adept
drumming adept

Joined: Tue Dec 25, 2007 12:51 am
Posts: 368
Location: Romania, Brasov
Post Re: tuning question
used another tuning method...john bonham style. the bottom...about 3 notes higher. they sound GREAT

_________________
Tama Superstar Fusion Set
Remo Emperor/Ambasador
Remo EmperorX/Hazy 250
Remo Powersonic
Pro-Mark 747B, Pro-Mark Jason Bonham Signature
Paiste 2002 and Zildjian A Custom
Gibraltar Thorne
Tama Iron Cobra Rolling Glide Double Pedal.


Sun Jan 17, 2010 12:09 pm
Profile YIM
session drummer
session drummer

Joined: Tue Jul 24, 2007 12:05 pm
Posts: 944
Location: Miami, Fl
Post Re: tuning question
metldrummer2112 wrote:
He'd have to get new heads to lose the rings. But you probably should be getting new heads for that anyway. EC2's are better for close miking situations in the studio. I'd get some G2 clears or maybe try some of their new Onyx heads. And like Bong said, tune them so they sound good out front, maybe about 20 or so feet away



Ec2 will cut they just need to be tuned right, as in not just above wrinkle, because like any head the low you tune 'em the less they project.
tero wrote:
used another tuning method...john bonham style. the bottom...about 3 notes higher. they sound GREAT

Its always a good idea that if you don't like what your hearing, then bring it up a bit and let em sing.

_________________
7 piece Pearl EXR
Saluda cymbals


Mon Jan 18, 2010 4:17 pm
Profile WWW
drumming adept
drumming adept

Joined: Tue Dec 25, 2007 12:51 am
Posts: 368
Location: Romania, Brasov
Post Re: tuning question
yes. if i tuned both heads to the lowest pitch, i got a "peawwwwww" sound. raised a bottom head a little and also the batter...and my toms sing :D. if i tap each head without muffling the other, i get the same pitch. but if i listen to each head separately, the bottom is 3 notes higher.

but overall, the toms sound great now.

_________________
Tama Superstar Fusion Set
Remo Emperor/Ambasador
Remo EmperorX/Hazy 250
Remo Powersonic
Pro-Mark 747B, Pro-Mark Jason Bonham Signature
Paiste 2002 and Zildjian A Custom
Gibraltar Thorne
Tama Iron Cobra Rolling Glide Double Pedal.


Tue Jan 19, 2010 2:43 am
Profile YIM
drumming adept
drumming adept

Joined: Tue Dec 25, 2007 12:51 am
Posts: 368
Location: Romania, Brasov
Post Re: tuning question
I have another problem now..I seem to not manage to get the same amount of ring out of my tom toms. The 10" is more ringy than the other one. It rings a little bit more. what should I do?

_________________
Tama Superstar Fusion Set
Remo Emperor/Ambasador
Remo EmperorX/Hazy 250
Remo Powersonic
Pro-Mark 747B, Pro-Mark Jason Bonham Signature
Paiste 2002 and Zildjian A Custom
Gibraltar Thorne
Tama Iron Cobra Rolling Glide Double Pedal.


Wed Jan 20, 2010 8:29 am
Profile YIM
session drummer
session drummer

Joined: Tue Jul 24, 2007 12:05 pm
Posts: 944
Location: Miami, Fl
Post Re: tuning question
half a moongell if all the lugs are same pitch will help control the sound. But I would try different tunings till you find what you like. The more you tune, the easier it will be to find what you want. I can change my tom heads (5 drums) and have them sounding great in less than an hour and a half.

_________________
7 piece Pearl EXR
Saluda cymbals


Sun Jan 24, 2010 8:05 pm
Profile WWW
groove master
groove master

Joined: Wed Aug 08, 2007 10:51 am
Posts: 2021
Location: indiana
Post Re: tuning question
Tune them higher. It might sound too high from where you're sitting, but they sound great from everywhere else.

I hate the high pitch tones I hear while playing, but I recorded myself playing with a descent camcorder and they sounded great.

_________________
R.I.P. Jimmy "the Rev" Sullivan. You will be missed.


Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:15 pm
Profile WWW
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 11 posts ] 


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 0 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  


cron