i have a Tama Swingstar..

what would be a good upgrade from that??


My cymbals Are Sabian AAX

im not woryd about those just the shells


Brand dosent batter








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All depends on how much you wanna spend.

Mapex M birch.








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Drums are fun, cars are sick, music is great, and life is alright.

"I never said that gear makes the player...I just wanted to exploit the other side of the argument."

yamaha my friend, mapex isnt bad either. but yamaha is consistant, and reliable. i can tell you that from 2 years of being a traveling/touring drummer. they are great kits.








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Sabian AA, HH, Sig, XS20 - Remo/Evans
Pro mark - Yamaha/Dixon Hardware
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it depends on your budget. mapex m birch is good but if you have more to spend, i recommend going higher than that. i found a good deal on a set of yamaha birch custom absolute nouveaus and upgraded to them from my swingstars, and i love them. new they cost over 3000, but i got them used for under 1700 and i couldnt be happier. check out high end tamas, you cant go wrong with them. also yamaha maple, birch, and oak customs. mapexs saturn and orion series deliver a lot for the money too, and theres always dw. look around, theres a ton of drums out there. my vote goes to yamaha though as i am very pleased with mine, but thats only if theyre in your price range.








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zen_drummer wrote:

Real life doesn't work that way, and one day he's gonna pull a stunt like that and they'll put a cap in him. At that point it won't matter that he was fat in high-school and couldn't get laid.

anavrinIV wrote:

it depends on your budget. mapex m birch is good but if you have more to spend, i recommend going higher than that. i found a good deal on a set of yamaha birch custom absolute nouveaus and upgraded to them from my swingstars, and i love them. new they cost over 3000, but i got them used for under 1700 and i couldnt be happier. check out high end tamas, you cant go wrong with them. also yamaha maple, birch, and oak customs. mapexs saturn and orion series deliver a lot for the money too, and theres always dw. look around, theres a ton of drums out there. my vote goes to yamaha though as i am very pleased with mine, but thats only if theyre in your price range.

^ what he said ^ = truth








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Sabian AA, HH, Sig, XS20 - Remo/Evans
Pro mark - Yamaha/Dixon Hardware
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Go Pacific. I purchased these over a DW set. Saved me money and got the same sound quality, so why spend 1500 more for a DW? These drums sound like a DW and are built tough like one. They have lasted me forever. I am on 4 years with them and have played tons and tons of shows. Never had a problem since. Mapex and yamaha are good, but you have to pay more money in order to get maple shells. Mapex are bland and boring and yamaha are just way to bulky and dead sounding. That is just my opinion though.

i wouldnt say mapex were bland, ive had my m birch for over a year now and theyve been great. put some pinstripe heads on them and i tuned them for a nice fat punchy sound, with good tone. id love to own a saturn or orion series kit, but i might try that gretsch mod kit next. anyways, depends on ur price range. incidentally i was at a gig last nite watchin the slackers and he had a yamaha, dont know wot kit but it sounded great. thumpy, warm bass and toms were punchy and clear. hope this helps mate
peace

i think im gunna go with the maypex M Birch.

if i can't find a kit with
1 rack and 2 floor toms

any one know a good kit with that








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also what are the tonal diffrences of Fusion sizes vs. reg sizes

Whats more suited for harder rock?

thx








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tragicmistakedrummer wrote:

also what are the tonal diffrences of Fusion sizes vs. reg sizes

Whats more suited for harder rock?

thx

fusion sizes are a bit smaller and evenly sized. standard are a bit bigger and unevenly sized. tuning plays the biggest roll in what your drums are gonna sound like. i'd go with the fusion and tune a bit lower. some ppl will say get the bigger drums for hard rock. but i dont like unevenly spaced toms. a 13" tom will usually presnt some kind of tuning problem








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http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Mapex-Pro-M-Plus-Bass-Fusion-Pop-22-Drum-Set-with-Free-Black-Panther-Snare-Drum?sku=490322

anyone diging this?








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I'm probably in a different camp than many drummers here. I personally think that any intermediate kit (and up) can make a fine kit to have. I believe that marketing plays a big role in making people think that they have to have the top of the line whatever to be a good drummer...(I take exception to this with snare drums and cymbals---you get what you pay for usually with those.) With drum shells, lots of times the drum company will use the same shells for several lines, just adding "nicer" hardware or different finishes.

Also, lots of companies buy their shells from some of the same manufacturers, like Keller, and put their own badge and finish on it, and you can find people that will argue that company A's drums are so much better than company B's, when in reality they are the EXACT same drum with different finishes. Not every drum company does this, and not every line of kit is this way, but it's more common than some might think.

Anyway, I know that I'll probably get bashed and flamed, but IMO, don't waste tons of money on a high end kit, unless you just have money to throw around. An expensive kit doesn't make a bad drummer sound good, but a good drummer can make an inexpensive kit sound great. If I were you I would save up for more cymbals and maybe another really nice snare drum or just save it for something you need. But that's me!








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"Not everything that counts can be counted, and not everything that can be counted counts." --Albert Einstein

Yeah your right ^. I agree. But then, wheres the fun? Its always fun to buy new stuff, and what better than a new kit?