Hey, Im gonna be selling most of my kit to buy an electronic one, but keeping my cymbals a few stands, pedal and snare. The reason is I dont have room for them and they are obviously too loud.

If I get an electronic kit I will be able to actually get some practice in at home without really getting on anyones nerves.

When I play live and need to use my kit I was thinking of using the electronic kit but with my actual cymbals and snare drum.

Does anyone think this is a good idea? Let me know

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It depends mainly on one thing: the sound system you will be playing through. If you have a large amplifier to feed your sound through, the monitoring issue becomes less important, but you're still completely at the mercy of wherever you're playing for what the audience will hear.

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It depends mainly on one thing: the sound system you will be playing through. If you have a large amplifier to feed your sound through, the monitoring issue becomes less important, but you're still completely at the mercy of wherever you're playing for what the audience will hear.

Thats a very good point!! It will best for me to get my own personal monitor so I can hear my self. Hmmmmmm I need to put more thought into this, Im definately gonna do it though.








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i have an electronic drum kit and an acoustic.

Personally i'll not use a electronic drum kit for a concert, but if i have to do that, i'll go only for electronic, i don't like to mixe the two sounds.... it's just personal advice

By the way you can find a lot of drummers who plays with both things! So do what you feel better

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That's a great way to do it! I have always thought that electric cymbal triggers are never really as responsive and sensitive as acoustic cymbals. You just have to think about your balance. The sound guy will be controlling your drums and hopefully, he'll be good enough to try and match the volume you create with your cymbals. You just want to avoid drowning yourself out with your own cymbals.

the sound system is such a huge factor. And the tone of other instruments come into play also. When I've seen drummers do this either the soud system and sound man are great and its fine or, You have live sounding guitars and bass, live sounding vocals and CD quality drums. some times it just doesn't fit. Personally I wouldn't use them live but for practice and recording they are great. I have a friend that uses them in a funk/hip hop band and they work great in that application but his set up time takes for ever

I have used my V-drums lots of times in clubs where an acoustic kit would be too loud. They work great. Be prepared to adjust your sounds (especially your kick sound) to fit a PA and the room. Different speakers are going to reproduce your tones differently and you may have to make some adjustments to get what you want. Likewise different size rooms may loose a kick with all low end and no "click" to it. You don't get the luxury of being able to change your tones easily with an acoustic kit, so take advantage of it.
I have usually used a band owned pa with my v-drums so the quality was usually pretty much the same. Gigs when I did use a house PA I brought my own amp and monitor so I would be accustomed to what I was hearing. If the house sound is real bad you can always point your monitor at the crowd and hope for the best. I guess my point is you may want to have your own monitor or keep headphones on hand in case the house gear sucks. Bad house sound is never our fault right? It's the guitarist's fault for never turning down their stupid amps. Sorry-venting a little.








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I've tried using headphones with electronics before, didn't work very well for me, but that is more a personal preference.

When I've used electronic pads in a live setting I still kept my acoustic snare and cymbals.

the other way I've used electronics in a live setting involved a band whose live sound was partially sequenced. we basically played along with the sequenced parts. This requires being able to hear the sequenced parts well, but it was quite fun to play around and through the sequenced drum parts. almost like playing with a percussionist.

My touring kit I use a dw 5 piece kit...with a roland s-pds and two triggers and a pad and a DAT player and IPOD...I love it!!!








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I remember when I played at church, we switched to an electronic kit for volume control but we had to get rid of it because there were no dynamics.

If you must, at least use acoustic cymbals.








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Pearls, Zildjians, Vics, Evans.

Thanks for all of your input. Im taking all of your points into consideration.

The whole electronic and acoustic thing isnt going to happen for a few months
so it will just be acoustic for now.








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I play both acoustic and electronic drums
Electronic drums are great for several things.

1) Practice at home with head phone keep in mind that they do make a thug sound not completely quite.

2) Easy to record no mics needed

3) Makes it fun jamming with other musician don't have to play loud so it’s good for working out material.

4) Now the difference between acoustic and electronic is they have different feel. Electronic are more close to each other then acoustic drums. You are limited in some set (like your cymbals don’t have a bell you can't ride the ride cymbal like some music requires). You don't have to hit as hard as acoustic drums so when you go back to playing acoustic you will notice your muscle may have to develop again.

5) Now as far as mixing your cymbal an electronic keep in mind that you may also have to mic your cymbal in order to have an even sound.

I personally love my electronic drums for home and use my acoustic drums on the road I prefer to play my 9 piece drum set with all my cymbals which I would have to have lots more trigger or 2 module to match the size of my acoustic kit.

I guess it all depends on the type of music you’re going to play and what you feel comfortable with.

Peace, Keifer

I use both when it comes to practice. But the electronic less and less. I've started focusing my "quiet time" when making a noise is out of the question, on technique and pad work. Then when I go to the kit I just focus on playing songs.

Being short of room is a real nightmare, but perhaps you can store the drums elsewhere?

I could make do with an acoustic kit and a large pad, but I couldn't do without an acoustic set of somekind.








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Rob Crisp wrote:

I use both when it comes to practice. But the electronic less and less. I've started focusing my "quiet time" when making a noise is out of the question, on technique and pad work. Then when I go to the kit I just focus on playing songs.

Being short of room is a real nightmare, but perhaps you can store the drums elsewhere?

I could make do with an acoustic kit and a large pad, but I couldn't do without an acoustic set of somekind.

My kit is actually stored somewhere else. Its at a local youth centre wherte I work volunarily, but the thing Ive benn so busy with uni its becoming hard to find time to study and go there. Not only that I dont get much time for playing cos all the kids wanna learn or have their bands there.








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Rob Crisp wrote:

I use both when it comes to practice. But the electronic less and less. I've started focusing my "quiet time" when making a noise is out of the question, on technique and pad work. Then when I go to the kit I just focus on playing songs.

Being short of room is a real nightmare, but perhaps you can store the drums elsewhere?

I could make do with an acoustic kit and a large pad, but I couldn't do without an acoustic set of somekind.

My kit is actually stored somewhere else. Its at a local youth centre wherte I work volunarily, but the thing Ive benn so busy with uni its becoming hard to find time to study and go there. Not only that I dont get much time for playing cos all the kids wanna learn or have their bands there.

DOH! No where else you can stash it I suppose.

There's really no easy cheap solution to the problem of storage space is there.

I agree with the other guys when it comes to playing live with an electric kit though... bit of a mission to set up and you are totally at the mercy of sound guys.








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