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keith bushey

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 Who's first??
I thought this would open a good conversation...Who learns their part first in your band, drums or guitar?? Our band?...its usually me. I'm a practice hound. Once we pick a song to learn, it goes into the MP3 player, to the drum module, then to the headphones! Usually by next practice I have my part down, and have to sit and watch our guitarist figure it out. I laugh, and they get pissed. Who's usually first in your band?
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Thu Dec 27, 2007 8:58 am |
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rufus4dagruv

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We haven't worked on any new covers lately. We have 85 in the arsenal, which is plenty for now. When we did learn them, whoever brings it to the table usually would provide a recording of the song. We would listen to it a few times, pick out the key licks and changes, then run through it a couple of times. That's usually all it takes. Our bass player is usually the last to pick something up...and the first to forget his line.
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Thu Dec 27, 2007 9:27 am |
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SGarrett

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I'm of the opinion that practice should be done at home and band rehearsal should be for songs that are already learned or at the point of working on.
I'm a practice hound too and am usually the first to learn new songs and/or arrangements.
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Thu Dec 27, 2007 9:43 am |
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dwtoast72

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SGarrett wrote:I'm of the opinion that practice should be done at home and band rehearsal should be for songs that are already learned or at the point of working on.
I'm a practice hound too and am usually the first to learn new songs and/or arrangements.
I sooooooooo agree... I used to play in this cover band called PushButtonWar here in germany (all soldier band)....and our bass player was the biggest dirt bag of a musician i've ever seen in my entire 25 years of existence!!! This idiot would come to practice and struggle through bass parts....not because he had no talent (God knows, he had talent...loads!), but because he'd rather beat-off in his barracks room than plug his new 3500 dollar bass into his practice amp and practice the songs we'd decided to play... It was so bad, in fact, that when we played shows out on the economy, he'd make it through the first half of the first set; he knew those songs....but the other half of the first set and throughout the rest of the other 3-4 sets, depending, it was "hey, Tony (guitarist/vox) what are the chords???" while ON STAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Thu Dec 27, 2007 10:17 am |
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SGarrett

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dwtoast72 wrote:SGarrett wrote:I'm of the opinion that practice should be done at home and band rehearsal should be for songs that are already learned or at the point of working on.
I'm a practice hound too and am usually the first to learn new songs and/or arrangements.
I sooooooooo agree... I used to play in this cover band called PushButtonWar here in germany (all soldier band)....and our bass player was the biggest dirt bag of a musician i've ever seen in my entire 25 years of existence!!! This idiot would come to practice and struggle through bass parts....not because he had no talent (God knows, he had talent...loads!), but because he'd rather beat-off in his barracks room than plug his new 3500 dollar bass into his practice amp and practice the songs we'd decided to play... It was so bad, in fact, that when we played shows out on the economy, he'd make it through the first half of the first set; he knew those songs....but the other half of the first set and throughout the rest of the other 3-4 sets, depending, it was "hey, Tony (guitarist/vox) what are the chords???" while ON STAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!
I hate that! I was briefly in a band with a bassist who literally couldn't take the time to learn the bass line to Sunshine Of Your Love at home and then took almost half an hour of rehearsal time, before a show, to figure it out. "No, no, no, don't show me...I'll get it!" This guy would also literally make a fist and pound on his open E string, making the worst clatter of a sound through a very loud rig. I finally told him that he had to get a lot better if the band wanted me to stay around. He actually told me that screwing his chick was more important than practicing at home. See ya!
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Thu Dec 27, 2007 10:50 am |
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kErmit vOn zOmbie

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we just play. we learn things as a band(s). it works out a lot better that way. all of us can just walk into situations and play on the fly. sometimes the strings will ask whaqt key its in, after that we roll. it's cool.
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Thu Dec 27, 2007 4:48 pm |
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SGarrett

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kErmit vOn zOmbie wrote:we just play. we learn things as a band(s). it works out a lot better that way. all of us can just walk into situations and play on the fly. sometimes the strings will ask whaqt key its in, after that we roll. it's cool.
Depends on what style you're playing. If you're talking jam based music, that works. But if you're talking something that should be played the same way every time, it's a little different.
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Thu Dec 27, 2007 5:09 pm |
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kErmit vOn zOmbie

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SGarrett wrote:kErmit vOn zOmbie wrote:we just play. we learn things as a band(s). it works out a lot better that way. all of us can just walk into situations and play on the fly. sometimes the strings will ask whaqt key its in, after that we roll. it's cool.
Depends on what style you're playing. If you're talking jam based music, that works. But if you're talking something that should be played the same way every time, it's a little different.
Agreed if you are playing the pit in Vegas or someone is paying you serious cash you'll/they'll want an exact arrangement everytime, but other than that if you are a pro, you should be able to walk into ANY gig and perform anytime, anywhere, any genre. Metal, Pop, Hip Hop, Soul, Country, Rockabilly, Classic Rock, Blues, Jazz, Surf, Jam based, Bad synth crap whatever... play for the moment, play for the song, own it! I call it working without a net. Congrats on posting number 1666!!!!! Keep up the good work!
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Thu Dec 27, 2007 6:49 pm |
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SGarrett

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kErmit vOn zOmbie wrote:SGarrett wrote:kErmit vOn zOmbie wrote:we just play. we learn things as a band(s). it works out a lot better that way. all of us can just walk into situations and play on the fly. sometimes the strings will ask whaqt key its in, after that we roll. it's cool.
Depends on what style you're playing. If you're talking jam based music, that works. But if you're talking something that should be played the same way every time, it's a little different.
Agreed if you are playing the pit in Vegas or someone is paying you serious cash you'll/they'll want an exact arrangement everytime, but other than that if you are a pro, you should be able to walk into ANY gig and perform anytime, anywhere, any genre. Metal, Pop, Hip Hop, Soul, Country, Rockabilly, Classic Rock, Blues, Jazz, Surf, Jam based, Bad synth crap whatever... play for the moment, play for the song, own it! I call it working without a net. Congrats on posting number 1666!!!!! Keep up the good work!
Very true. I can play most things, just not the jazz and latin so much.
Oh wow. I didn't even notice that. I'm a post whore!
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Thu Dec 27, 2007 6:59 pm |
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plai-gretsch

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I'm in an original band, but I work a lot so don't make as many jam sessions, however I generally like to hear the guitar and bass rhythm then put drums with that, unless we do a cover (very rare) then i listen to the song intently, and if I can find a solo of the drumming or tabs, and learn it from there
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Thu Dec 27, 2007 7:30 pm |
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drumur

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Quote:I'm of the opinion that practice should be done at home and band rehearsal should be for songs that are already learned or at the point of working on.
This is the professional way to go about it.
I feel that if anyone didn't learn the song, then it should be put on the back burner 'til next time. It's not fair to subject the rest of the members to that kind of unprofessionalism.
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EOTE_drummer

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if we want to learn a cover, we all decide on the song, go home and learn it, come back to practice and bam!
that easy.
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Thu Dec 27, 2007 9:41 pm |
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keith bushey

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Ditto! When one of the band members has'nt a clue to whats going on, I stop it right there. To me, you don't show up to practice to learn what you should have been doing at home!
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Sat Dec 29, 2007 6:53 am |
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Exactly. Practice is for assembling the song and fine-tuning the parts, not for learning the song.
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crackheadback

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Sgarret can you change your avatar...that thing is creeping me out!!!!!!
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