They are roughly comparable in price and are both maple.

what about ludwig?

i like the Gretsch Renown maple. i was gonna get a set but my pearls were cheaper. i wasent realy looking for a super nice set any way. (i only needed a stage set.)

id spring for ludwig classic maples if i were you. i love mine.








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I have the renown maple and its amazing. so i'm gonna say that








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I love Yamaha drums but the Tour have real round bearing edges...it's not a high end kit.
I almost bought them as my 2nd kit until I saw the bearing edges. I ended up buying Gretsch Catalina maple instead, which have a 30 degree edge.
Now Gretsch are great sounding drums ..I had a Gretsch kit years ago that kicked butt and it was so easy to play and tune. The 13" rack tom would tune a lot deeper than my Pearl Masters 14" floor. And these were wrapped shells.
I would imagine that the Renowns are better than what I had back then.
Get the Gretsch. Your gonna love them.









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i say tour customs. i own birch custom absolutes and love them...no problems at all with the bearing edges. the tour customs are the same as the maple customs but with different hardware and finishes. go for those.








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Real life doesn't work that way, and one day he's gonna pull a stunt like that and they'll put a cap in him. At that point it won't matter that he was fat in high-school and couldn't get laid.

No... the birch customs are the same as the recording custums. They're a high-end drum kit.
The Tour customs have a 60 degree bearing edge. They are not a high-end kit. I turned them down. Believe what you want to believe.









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I know the general concept of why bearing edge is important. But specifically, what does a rounded bearing edge take away from the drum? What does a bad bearing edge sound like?

shoes23 wrote:

I know the general concept of why bearing edge is important. But specifically, what does a rounded bearing edge take away from the drum? What does a bad bearing edge sound like?

a bad bearing edge wlil make your drum impossible to tune correctly. you can spend an hour on it and you'll just never get it to fall into tune








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If my Gretsch Renown were a woman, and if I wasn't already married, I'd marry it. I used to own a Yamaha. I don't have anything against them, but I found the Gretsch to be a better value, and I like the sound better, especially the bass drum.

drumur wrote:

I love Yamaha drums but the Tour have real round bearing edges...it's not a high end kit.
I almost bought them as my 2nd kit until I saw the bearing edges. I ended up buying Gretsch Catalina maple instead, which have a 30 degree edge.
Now Gretsch are great sounding drums ..I had a Gretsch kit years ago that kicked butt and it was so easy to play and tune. The 13" rack tom would tune a lot deeper than my Pearl Masters 14" floor. And these were wrapped shells.
I would imagine that the Renowns are better than what I had back then.
Get the Gretsch. Your gonna love them.

Yamaha Tour Customs have a 60 degree edge. 60 degrees is sharper then a 30 degree edge. Just like to clarify.








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Yamaha Tour Customs have a 60 degree edge. 60 degrees is sharper then a 30 degree edge. Just like to clarify.

You know, come to think of it, your right. I wasn't thinking.
But when I went to guitar center they were putting them together and I started to help. I noticed that the edges were really rounded like drums from the old days. When you see them you'll see what I mean.

Ah read this

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60 Degree Bearing Edges
All Tour Custom drums have 60-degree R2 bearing edges. This is something new for Yamaha on a maple shell drum set. This bearing edge has a rounder profile so that there is more shell to head contact. This gives the drums clarity in the low-end fundamental and added warmth.

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OK drumur i think the case is that we are both right. they are cut at 60 degrees but "shallower" if that makes sence. I have also seen the edges and they look way less then 60. Back on topic though I think they are both great kits for the price.








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